RE: Maintenance prices DOUBLED?
Hi list, Can someone clarify what is exactly the difference between Workgroup & Enterprise ? We also had a HUGE increase because IBM is going cpu based instead of users. We have a total of 72 cpu...imagine the price tag !!!! Thks ! -----Message d'origine----- De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Obnoxio The Clown Envoy' : 23 d'cembre, 2003 15:44 ' : informix-list@iiug.org Objet : Re: Maintenance prices DOUBLED? Paul Watson wrote: > Interestingly I was told by IBM today that Workgroup no longer exists I am "sceptical" about this assertion. > Ben Thompson wrote: >> >> Tim Ertl wrote: >> >> > We just got socked by a HUGE increase in Maintenance. Has anyone else? >> >> No, and this is coming from a UK-perspective, I understand that IBM are >> tightening up on who has workgroup and enterprise editions and what they >> pay for support. I don't think the price has changed much though. >> >> > This is bad news for me since some of our management group seems to >> > love the idea of M/S SQL server. >> >> We have a few SQL Server implementations and the replication is a >> nightmare when compared with HDR. Schema changes can be very problematic >> - so bad that we're migrating some of the larger systems to Informix. >> >> > Anybody find a better way to get a good price on this. We are a small >> > company with only a dozen Informix users. Help! >> >> Make sure you use Workgroup edition? -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche sending to informix-list
St'phane Gadoury wrote: > Hi list, > > Can someone clarify what is exactly the difference between Workgroup & > Enterprise ? > > We also had a HUGE increase because IBM is going cpu based instead of users. > We have a total of 72 cpu...imagine the price tag !!!! > > Thks ! Workgroup Edition is up to four CPU server (Intel 32-bit) or up to two CPU server (RISC 32-bit) and excludes some features. HTH Michael > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org > [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Obnoxio The Clown > Envoy' : 23 d'cembre, 2003 15:44 > ' : informix-list@iiug.org > Objet : Re: Maintenance prices DOUBLED? > > > Paul Watson wrote: > > >>Interestingly I was told by IBM today that Workgroup no longer exists > > > I am "sceptical" about this assertion. > > >>Ben Thompson wrote: >> >>>Tim Ertl wrote: >>> >>> >>>>We just got socked by a HUGE increase in Maintenance. Has anyone else? >>> >>>No, and this is coming from a UK-perspective, I understand that IBM are >>>tightening up on who has workgroup and enterprise editions and what they >>>pay for support. I don't think the price has changed much though. >>> >>> >>>>This is bad news for me since some of our management group seems to >>>>love the idea of M/S SQL server. >>> >>>We have a few SQL Server implementations and the replication is a >>>nightmare when compared with HDR. Schema changes can be very problematic >>>- so bad that we're migrating some of the larger systems to Informix. >>> >>> >>>>Anybody find a better way to get a good price on this. We are a small >>>>company with only a dozen Informix users. Help! >>> >>>Make sure you use Workgroup edition? >> > > -- > "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" > - Coluche > > sending to informix-list
Is that right? I thought it was 2 processors on Intel servers also .... "Michael Krzepkowski" <NOmichaelkSPAM@sqlcanada.com> wrote in message news:3FE8FE61.90406@sqlcanada.com... > St'phane Gadoury wrote: > > Hi list, > > > > Can someone clarify what is exactly the difference between Workgroup & > > Enterprise ? > > > > We also had a HUGE increase because IBM is going cpu based instead of users. > > We have a total of 72 cpu...imagine the price tag !!!! > > > > Thks ! > Workgroup Edition is up to four CPU server (Intel 32-bit) or > up to two CPU server (RISC 32-bit) and excludes some features. > > HTH > > Michael > > > > > > -----Message d'origine----- > > De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org > > [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Obnoxio The Clown > > Envoy' : 23 d'cembre, 2003 15:44 > > ' : informix-list@iiug.org > > Objet : Re: Maintenance prices DOUBLED? > > > > > > Paul Watson wrote: > > > > > >>Interestingly I was told by IBM today that Workgroup no longer exists > > > > > > I am "sceptical" about this assertion. > > > > > >>Ben Thompson wrote: > >> > >>>Tim Ertl wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>>>We just got socked by a HUGE increase in Maintenance. Has anyone else? > >>> > >>>No, and this is coming from a UK-perspective, I understand that IBM are > >>>tightening up on who has workgroup and enterprise editions and what they > >>>pay for support. I don't think the price has changed much though. > >>> > >>> > >>>>This is bad news for me since some of our management group seems to > >>>>love the idea of M/S SQL server. > >>> > >>>We have a few SQL Server implementations and the replication is a > >>>nightmare when compared with HDR. Schema changes can be very problematic > >>>- so bad that we're migrating some of the larger systems to Informix. > >>> > >>> > >>>>Anybody find a better way to get a good price on this. We are a small > >>>>company with only a dozen Informix users. Help! > >>> > >>>Make sure you use Workgroup edition? > >> > > > > -- > > "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" > > - Coluche > > > > sending to informix-list >
Neil Truby wrote: > Is that right? > I thought it was 2 processors on Intel servers also .... Confirmed 100% with IBM about six months ago. We logged a call with support and I have it in writing. (It "used to be" two CPUs in each model.) Michael > > "Michael Krzepkowski" <NOmichaelkSPAM@sqlcanada.com> wrote in message > news:3FE8FE61.90406@sqlcanada.com... > >>St'phane Gadoury wrote: >> >>>Hi list, >>> >>>Can someone clarify what is exactly the difference between Workgroup & >>>Enterprise ? >>> >>>We also had a HUGE increase because IBM is going cpu based instead of >> > users. > >>>We have a total of 72 cpu...imagine the price tag !!!! >>> >>>Thks ! >> >>Workgroup Edition is up to four CPU server (Intel 32-bit) or >>up to two CPU server (RISC 32-bit) and excludes some features. >> >>HTH >> >>Michael >> >> >> >>>-----Message d'origine----- >>>De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org >>>[mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Obnoxio The Clown >>>Envoy' : 23 d'cembre, 2003 15:44 >>>' : informix-list@iiug.org >>>Objet : Re: Maintenance prices DOUBLED? >>> >>> >>>Paul Watson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>Interestingly I was told by IBM today that Workgroup no longer exists >>> >>> >>>I am "sceptical" about this assertion. >>> >>> >>> >>>>Ben Thompson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>>Tim Ertl wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>We just got socked by a HUGE increase in Maintenance. Has anyone else? >>>>> >>>>>No, and this is coming from a UK-perspective, I understand that IBM are >>>>>tightening up on who has workgroup and enterprise editions and what >>>> > they > >>>>>pay for support. I don't think the price has changed much though. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>This is bad news for me since some of our management group seems to >>>>>>love the idea of M/S SQL server. >>>>> >>>>>We have a few SQL Server implementations and the replication is a >>>>>nightmare when compared with HDR. Schema changes can be very >>>> > problematic > >>>>>- so bad that we're migrating some of the larger systems to Informix. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>>Anybody find a better way to get a good price on this. We are a small >>>>>>company with only a dozen Informix users. Help! >>>>> >>>>>Make sure you use Workgroup edition? >>>> >>>-- >>>"C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" >>>- Coluche >>> >>>sending to informix-list >> > >
<quote> The following apply to the Workgroup Edition CPU limitation for IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, IBM IDS Workgroup Edition, and Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition CPU LIMITS. Licensee may install and use IBM Informix Dynamic Server Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition on a maximum of two (2) CPU's. LIMITED COMPONENTS. Licensee is restricted from using the following Product functionality with IBM Informix Dynamic Server Workgroup Edition and IBM Informix Internet Foundation Workgroup Edition: parallel data query, data partitioning, parallel backup, parallel restore, parallel load, parallel unload, optical disks, Enterprise Replication (ER), High Availability Data Replication (HDR), VLM (ability to access more than 2GB RAM). </quote> St'phane Gadoury wrote: > > Hi list, > > Can someone clarify what is exactly the difference between Workgroup & > Enterprise ? > > We also had a HUGE increase because IBM is going cpu based instead of users. > We have a total of 72 cpu...imagine the price tag !!!! > > Thks ! > > -----Message d'origine----- > De : owner-informix-list@iiug.org > [mailto:owner-informix-list@iiug.org]De la part de Obnoxio The Clown > Envoy' : 23 d'cembre, 2003 15:44 > ' : informix-list@iiug.org > Objet : Re: Maintenance prices DOUBLED? > > Paul Watson wrote: > > > Interestingly I was told by IBM today that Workgroup no longer exists > > I am "sceptical" about this assertion. > > > Ben Thompson wrote: > >> > >> Tim Ertl wrote: > >> > >> > We just got socked by a HUGE increase in Maintenance. Has anyone else? > >> > >> No, and this is coming from a UK-perspective, I understand that IBM are > >> tightening up on who has workgroup and enterprise editions and what they > >> pay for support. I don't think the price has changed much though. > >> > >> > This is bad news for me since some of our management group seems to > >> > love the idea of M/S SQL server. > >> > >> We have a few SQL Server implementations and the replication is a > >> nightmare when compared with HDR. Schema changes can be very problematic > >> - so bad that we're migrating some of the larger systems to Informix. > >> > >> > Anybody find a better way to get a good price on this. We are a small > >> > company with only a dozen Informix users. Help! > >> > >> Make sure you use Workgroup edition? > > -- > "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" > - Coluche > > sending to informix-list -- Paul Watson # Oninit Ltd # Growing old is mandatory Tel: +44 1436 672201 # Growing up is optional Fax: +44 1436 678693 # Mob: +44 7818 003457 # www.oninit.com #