Re: Informix 10 vs Oracle 10g

M Segel wrote: >>Convince C-level management that it isn't a path without a future. >>Right now it is impossible to view it as more viable than Sybase. >>Most business owners are looking at the list of major app vendors >>... SAP ... Ok, eBusiness Suite (Oracle), PeopleSoft (Oracle), >>JD Edwards (Oracle), Siebel (Oracle), and thinking ... why? >> > > You're kidding right? > Why do you think that IBM is now positioning IDS as the OLTP engine of > choice? > > ;-) Not kidding. The reason for looking at the OLTP marketplace, take a look at my list above, is that they are spinning the fact that they have no chance in the apps market: They are ceding it. >>And Informix is not the only product where the question is asked. >>I think if one approaches it objectively, dispassionately, one >>can reasonably conclude that it is too late. A world in which the >>market is split between Oracle and Microsoft is not that hard to >>envision. > > Hmmm. I guess PT Barnum was right. There are suckers born every minute. Did you ever doubt it? Who truly believes Windows is better technically than Solaris or HP/UX or AIX? > With respect to Microsoft's SQLServer, here's a free clue. > IBM screwed up when they put Cloudscape out to pasture under Apache's Open > Source licensing. In one sense I agree. But looking at what IBM has done with its databases I'd say it is just an acknowledgement of the fact that the game is over just as CA did with Ingres. > The point is that on the low end of the scale, there are other products that > will take out Microsoft and even MySQL. Did you happen to notice the new Express Edition of Oracle? http://www.oracle.com/technology/products/database/xe/index.html Free of all licensing. How about Oracle's recent purchase of Innobase OY? http://www.computerworld.com/databasetopics/data/software/story/0,10801,105245,00.html Oracle is already moving to blunt their inroads. > Leisure Suit Larry must be a major hero to the outsourcers in India. Just as one of our friends here in a c.d. usenet group is currently in China doing the same on behalf of IBM. > With Informix, you only need two reliable DBAs. And the reason you need the > second one is in case of a "Hit by Truck" incident where you lose your > first one. The same is true of all current RDBMS implementations from all vendors. You should not make assumptions based on old unsupported product versions from anyone. > But hey, what do I know? Seems like a lot. > I've worked with *all* of the major players and hands down Informix blows > away the competition. Especially Oracle. Granted I only worked with 8i, but > that was enough. (Along with their arrogant support staff that was > clueless.) 8i is an unsupported dinosaur that bears almost no relationship to the company's current offerings. Rollback segments? Gone. Internal? Gone. Rule Based Optimizer? Gone. Dictionary managed tablespaces? Gone. etc. You might want to look again. The technololgy you remember was introduced in 1999: A very long time ago in databases. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)