Re: Attention Mark Townsend of Oracle Corp.
dcruncher4@aim.com wrote: > In article <477849ED.1080004@psoug.org>, DA Morgan says... > >> With respect to the posting it is important to remember we are >> seeing only one side of the issue, that of the person that posted >> it, and it may well be that he has misinterpreted what he was told >> or that there is more to the story. > > I think it is as unambiguous as it can be > > "But last week, OUT sent me a warning that i can not use Oracle XE for > my educations. They threatened me that if wouldn't stop my educations, > they will bring a suit against my company. " > > In others words, Mark's assurance in this forum is worthless in any > defense. Mark is a VP and his ability to explain the facts of life to OUT is far from worthless. What he writes here may not help you. What he emails them directly may so I would suggest you contact him directly and forward a copy of all communications you have received. But lets keep the temperature down a bit for several reasons. First because this is playing out in an Informix usenet group where it is totally off-topic. Are you aware of comp.databases.oracle.misc? This would be more appropriate there. Second: Because so far you have posted, all over the internet, your interpretation of what OUT sent you. It would be helpful to read the full and complete text without editing or editorial comment. My girlfriend was born in Ankara so the fact that the original is in Turkish is not an issue. Put the doc on the internet and post a link to it. Third: Lets keep in mind that you may be misinterpreting what they wrote. They may be misinterpreting the XE license. And until we hear something official this is all quite possibly just a misunderstanding. What I can tell you is that XE is being used all over the planet to teach Oracle courses with the active encouragement of Oracle management. So lets be a bit patient, it is after all a holiday week, and see what comes of this in the next week to ten days. Might I suggest a glass of Raki until we hear something official? <g> -- Daniel A. Morgan Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
> Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 08:25:48 -0800 > From: damorgan@psoug.org Gee DA Maroon, Its really neat that a VP from Oracle is actually taking the time to post here. LOL... The point that started this discussion is that there is no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to the database market. (Unless you're talking JavaDB/Derby) Mark isn't Oracle legal and while there's a lot of noise about their XE EULA, that's all it is , noise. You get on Oracle's radar and they will do what they want. Why? Cause you have several competing agreements that mean you have to spend major bucks on a legal team which most people can't afford. And of course the outcome isn't guaranteed. So going full circle, no license is going to let you do whatever you want with the product, unless its an Apache license. Their terms are extremely liberal. _________________________________________________________________ Don't get caught with egg on your face. Play Chicktionary! http://club.live.com/chicktionary.aspx?icid=chick_wlhmtextlink1_dec
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Gee DA Maroon, And with that childish schoolyard level of maturity you think you will get a response? You did. I kill filed you on all of my personal email accounts. You remind me, and likely those employed by IBM, of a quote from William Penn's Fruits of Solitude: "Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders, than from the arguments of it opposers." Good day sir. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)
Da Maroon, I've been calling you that for years! You come here with no value or Informix expertise. Dude! I support Oracle, DB2, Informix, Sybase and Derby. Yet you don't see me here pushing Oracle. Ok, so I'm an Informix bigot. ;-) Seems to me, if it gets you from posting here, my job is done! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL! -G > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:16:27 -0800> From: damorgan@psoug.org> Subject: Re: Attention Mark Townsend of Oracle Corp.> To: informix-list@iiug.org> > Ian Michael Gumby wrote:> > > Gee DA Maroon,> > And with that childish schoolyard level of maturity you think you> will get a response?> > You did.> > I kill filed you on all of my personal email accounts.> > You remind me, and likely those employed by IBM, of a quote from> William Penn's Fruits of Solitude:> > "Truth often suffers more by the heat of its defenders, than from the> arguments of it opposers."> > Good day sir.> -- > Daniel A. Morgan> University of Washington> damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)> _______________________________________________> Informix-list mailing list> Informix-list@iiug.org> http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_sharelife_122007