Re: Oracle backups so a bit OT

"Dirk Moolman" <DirkM@mxgroup.co.za> wrote in message news:1107452293.3702908c387bdeb7aef0f5fa840d7dc9@teranews... > > I've chatted to a couple of people recently who have / are using Oracle, > and were told Online problems are a problem - is this true, or are they > just not configuring it properly ? > > Was also told the old versions, like 8 of Oracle could not do online > backups - but don't know where they are with this now. I guess I will > find out soon - with us migrating to Oracle. This really isn't true. I'd still maintain that from the point of view of simplicity and reliability Informix's ontape takes some beating. But many serious shops now integrate database backups into an overall backup manager, and in this respect - and I think here particualrly of HP's Data Protector (nee Omniback) - you'll probably find the Oracle/SQL Server/DB2 integration superior to that of Informix.

Neil Truby wrote: > "Dirk Moolman" <DirkM@mxgroup.co.za> wrote in message > news:1107452293.3702908c387bdeb7aef0f5fa840d7dc9@teranews... > >>I've chatted to a couple of people recently who have / are using Oracle, >>and were told Online problems are a problem - is this true, or are they >>just not configuring it properly ? >> >>Was also told the old versions, like 8 of Oracle could not do online >>backups - but don't know where they are with this now. I guess I will >>find out soon - with us migrating to Oracle. > > > This really isn't true. I'd still maintain that from the point of view of > simplicity and reliability Informix's ontape takes some beating. But many > serious shops now integrate database backups into an overall backup manager, > and in this respect - and I think here particualrly of HP's Data Protector > (nee Omniback) - you'll probably find the Oracle/SQL Server/DB2 integration > superior to that of Informix. And more and more I am seeing large shops not using tape. The cost of tape vs inexpensive hard disks, if anything, favors the disks not to mention they are both faster and more secure. I see more and more people rotating hard disks rather than tapes. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with 'u' to respond)

"DA Morgan" <damorgan@x.washington.edu> wrote in message news:1107542967.749469@yasure... > And more and more I am seeing large shops not using tape. > > The cost of tape vs inexpensive hard disks, if anything, favors the > disks not to mention they are both faster and more secure. I see > more and more people rotating hard disks rather than tapes. It's still expensive to send disk arrays offsite though.