RE: TechInfo Centre as was
This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. ------=_NextPartTM-000-a954d3fa-4833-4d9a-b8f2-86430d00ad52 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030" ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030 Content-Type: text/plain A few of things.... 1. Yes, the bad o is a beast. Just think of it as job security. 2. Would life be any better with DB2??? 3. You can take an O class just about anywhere. I can't find a Non-IBM vendor teaching DB2. 4. You can find an O guy/gal looking for a job anytime. Sheesh, our tech. rep. is still learning DB2 UDB!! 5. There's a mountain of books on O, about 5 on DB2 UDB. 6. Most vendors don't even know what DB2 UDB is.... -----Original Message----- From: Brian Minnick [mailto:BMinnick@belletire.com] Sent: Friday, January 16, 2004 8:07 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: RE: TechInfo Centre as was I've just completed the first three Oracle DBA classes and I'm telling you it's not pretty. Talk about how high it can be piled! Informix has it's problems with support, but you're not going to believe how much support from Oracle will be needed to administrate this behemoth. Just my thoughts, Brian -----Original Message----- From: David E. Grove [mailto:david_grove@correct.state.ak.us <mailto:david_grove@correct.state.ak.us> ] Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 6:58 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: TechInfo Centre as was We, too, have decided to move to O David Grove "Hamilton, Jerry" <hamiltoj@fleishman.com> wrote in message news:bu74rq$la6$1@terabinaries.xmission.com <news:bu74rq$la6$1@terabinaries.xmission.com> ... > > >so we should investigate the possiblity of moving to Orrible or Squeal > Server. > > Bingo! Same here. And to think, at one time I bled blue... > > -----Original Message----- > From: christopher.coleman@mediware.com > [mailto:christopher.coleman@mediware.com <mailto:christopher.coleman@mediware.com> ] > Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 3:12 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: TechInfo Centre as was > > > Neil Truby described a depressingly familiar scenario... > > So it seems that everything may be changing again soon. > > We keep running into this here, too. After spending nearly a year getting a > new OEM contract, we have suddenly found that we can only get information > and downloads through Passport Advantage. We were also told that the site > technical contact would be able to set up the accounts for us. > > My name, Christopher Coleman, was submitted with the contract paperwork as > site technical contact, but I never received any of the information. After > calling several different people, I was told that our site primary contact > (who is the comptroller) would have to set me up. I dragged him away from > his desk to listen to the speaker phone as we went through this. Half way > through the process, we are told, "It says here your site technical contact > is Chris Coleman. He should have all the info." > > My cry of "That would be ME!" was probably audible at the call centre, which > is a few miles from my office. > > Unfortunately, after all the effort and a couple more weeks dealing with > various people, it turns out my site has two PPA contracts, one of which is > useless. This is the one to which we have access. I was actually told to > create a new account (which would be my thirteenth IBM login) and have the > site technical contact add me to the other contract. Meanwhile, the > comptroller and I have two different people contacting us about merging the > contracts, each insisting there is only one person who can do this for us, > each offering a different name. > > Andy Kent made a snarky remark: > > How many more lose-lose situations do you think IBM can conspire to > > invent to drive its remaining customers away? > > Unfortunately, there is a lot of truth to it. My company's comptroller, who > has far more influence than a lowly database analyst, has decided that IBM > is too hard to work with, so we should investigate the possiblity of moving > to Orrible or Squeal Server. > > Sincerely, > > Christopher Coleman > > Database Analyst > Pharmacy Division > Mediware Information Systems, Inc. > tel: 913/307-1073 > sending to informix-list ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030 Content-Type: text/html <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"> <HTML><HEAD> <META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> <TITLE>Message</TITLE> <META content="MSHTML 6.00.2713.1100" name=GENERATOR></HEAD> <BODY hb_focus_attach="true"> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>A few of things....</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>1. Yes, the bad o is a beast. Just think of it as job security.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>2. Would life be any better with DB2??? </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>3. You can take an O class just about anywhere. I can't find a Non-IBM vendor teaching DB2. </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>4. You can find an O guy/gal looking for a job anytime. Sheesh, our tech. rep. is still learning DB2 UDB!!</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>5. There's a mountain of books on O, about 5 on DB2 UDB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004>6. Most vendors don't even know what DB2 UDB is....</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=265125014-16012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Brian Minnick [mailto:BMinnick@belletire.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 16, 2004 8:07 AM<BR><B>To:</B> informix-list@iiug.org<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: TechInfo Centre as was<BR><BR></FONT></DIV><BR> <P><FONT size=2>I've just completed the first three Oracle DBA classes and </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>I'm telling you it's not pretty. Talk about how high it can be </FONT><BR><FONT size=2>piled! Informix has it's problems with support, but you're not</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>going to believe how much support from Oracle will be needed to</FONT> <BR><FONT size=2>administrate this be
"Hamilton, Jerry" <hamiltoj@fleishman.com> wrote in message news:bu92gg$1ia$1@terabinaries.xmission.com... > > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand > this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. > > ------=_NextPartTM-000-a954d3fa-4833-4d9a-b8f2-86430d00ad52 > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030" > > ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030 > Content-Type: text/plain > > A few of things.... > > 1. Yes, the bad o is a beast. Just think of it as job security. Yes, and with IBM's autonomic computing there won't be any need for DBAs or sysadmins in the very near future.
Neil Truby wrote: > "Hamilton, Jerry" <hamiltoj@fleishman.com> wrote in message > news:bu92gg$1ia$1@terabinaries.xmission.com... >> >> This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not >> understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. >> >> ------=_NextPartTM-000-a954d3fa-4833-4d9a-b8f2-86430d00ad52 >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030" >> >> ------_=_NextPart_001_01C3DC40.7FEA6030 >> Content-Type: text/plain >> >> A few of things.... >> >> 1. Yes, the bad o is a beast. Just think of it as job security. > > Yes, and with IBM's autonomic computing there won't be any need for DBAs > or sysadmins in the very near future. I bet you even kept a straight face when you said that. -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche