Re: Install hangs on NT 4.0
From: "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> > >Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:7tsbj6$716$1@news.xmission.com... > > > > From: "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> > > > > > >Axel Sander <axsander@okay.net> wrote in message > > >news:7tq9fq$4qv$1@bnews.gigabell.net... > > > > On Sat, 9 Oct 1999 22:19:48 -0400, "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> >wrote: > > > > > > >Any clues? Is this a foretaste of this product's quality? > > > > A superb cheap shot. Excellent. > >Not so cheap. Perhaps you missed my comment below about the installation >wiping out half of my search path. Well, I've installed IDS PE several times (on Win 95 and 98) and it's never done that to me. > > Um. Is there any reason why you're installing PE and not a supported IDS > > port? Did you perhaps download the PE from iiug.org? If so, it *is* a >beta > > version, and it's not actually certified for NT, AFAIK. It was designed >to > > run on Windows 95. I don't even think it's certified for Windows 98. > >I purchased it as part of a publication from Osborne Press in order to >determine how well it stacked up against the DBMS products with which I'm >familiar. According to the publication, this is an NT version of the >product. There was no indication that Informix doesn't support IDS-PE, nor >that it was beta. It wouldn't seem in the company's best interests to >release a version of its product which doesn't work. Perhaps you should have checked with Informix? I don't think Osborne have necessarily got their facts straight. >Don't know about that. It certainly wasn't doing this in response to any >explicit choices that I made. True. > > Anyway, IDSPE was written around the time SP3 was around, and I'm pretty > > sure it's not certified, so you aren't exactly running into unexpected > > behaviour here. If you tried to install an SP3 version of IDS on SP5, >you > > would have all sorts of problems too... > > > > >Any other suggestions, or is this "product" just a lemon? > > > > Another superb cheap shot. Why don't you fork out the readies for a > > commercial product instead? The right version of IDS for your NT service > > pack level? > >Oh, I already own full licenses for all the commercial DBMS products I need >right now. My database experience is with Oracle, SQL Server, and DB2, and >I decided to find out how Informix compares with its competition for future >reference. So far I haven't seen anything that would tempt me to "fork >out" >another nickel. And did you buy those products off Osborne Press as well? Perhaps you should download proper evaluation software from www.intraware.com and install them before making rash judgements. >At this point I'll give Informix the benefit of the doubt, assuming that: > > 1. what I bought may not be representative of their core product; True. > 2. Informix made a mistake in letting this out the door; and Nope. It was intended for Win 95 and it works fine there. > 3. I made a mistake in buying it. Pass. I'd certainly say you were mis-sold. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:7tv717$902$1@news.xmission.com... > And did you buy those products off Osborne Press as well? No. They were acquired from the normal channels (or directly from the vendors) during the course of projects which required those database packages. > Perhaps you should download proper evaluation software from > www.intraware.com and install them before making rash judgements. Perhaps. I'm always happy to see competition in the DBMS market, but the burden of proof rests with the competing vendor, and frankly I don't have a lot of incentive to expend much more time and energy dodging obstacles in what is largely (for me) an artificial problem. I've had customers request that I undertake projects which used Oracle, DB2, or SQL Server. I've never had such a request involving Informix. If I ever do, I'll take a closer look. I've seen enough for right now. You're welcome to think of that as "rash" if you prefer.
On Tue, 12 Oct 1999 21:12:36 -0400, "Bob Kline" <bobklin@idt.net> wrote: > >Obnoxio The Clown <obnoxio@hotmail.com> wrote in message >news:7tv717$902$1@news.xmission.com... > >> And did you buy those products off Osborne Press as well? > >No. They were acquired from the normal channels (or directly from the >vendors) during the course of projects which required those database >packages. > >> Perhaps you should download proper evaluation software from >> www.intraware.com and install them before making rash judgements. > >Perhaps. I'm always happy to see competition in the DBMS market, but the >burden of proof rests with the competing vendor, <snip> I imagine that Informix Marketing droids are at this moment contacting Bob and politely asking him if he'd like any assistance with his evaluation of Informix, offering him CDs and manuals, putting him in touch with local consultants and generally helping him to make a sensible decision that compares equivalent products from each supplier. Of course, I also believe that the Earth is flat, pigs can fly and nuclear power is safe!!! Richard