HP-UX version for Informix 10.0

Posted in 2008

Summary

A user on IDS 9.40 asked which HP-UX release is needed to upgrade to IDS 10.0. The question was answered directly from the 10.00 machine notes: the PA-RISC builds (HC9/FC9) were built on HP-UX 11i (11.11) and certified on 11i v2 (11.23) and 11i v3 (11.31), while the Itanium build was built on 11.23 and certified on 11.31. The rest of the thread drifted into advice to go to IDS 11 instead (10 nearing EOM/EOS) versus arguments that 10 is more field-proven, with no consensus on which version is most stable.

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Topics: Installation, Setup & Upgrades, Platform-Specific Issues

GLENN MITCHELL — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 13:49:45 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to 10.0. What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31?

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Hrvoje Zokovic — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:03:32 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Here are some machine notes excerpts: ================================= MACHINE SPECIFIC NOTES FOR IBM Informix Dynamic Server 10.00.HC9 PRODUCT RELEASE ON HEWLETT PACKARD HP-UX DATE: 21 Aug 2008 ================================= OS Information : Built on HP-UX 11i (aka 11.11), Certified on 11i V2 (aka 11.23) and 11i v3 (aka 11.31). ================================= MACHINE SPECIFIC NOTES FOR IBM Informix Dynamic Server 10.00.FC9 PRODUCT RELEASE ON HEWLETT PACKARD HP-UX 64bit DATE: 21 Aug 2008 ================================= OS Information : Built on HP-UX 11i (aka 11.11), Certified on 11i V2 (aka 11.23) and 11i v3 (aka 11.31). ================================= MACHINE SPECIFIC NOTES FOR IBM Informix Dynamic Server 10.00.FC9 PRODUCT RELEASE ON HEWLETT PACKARD HP-UX Itanium 2 DATE: 21 Aug 2008 ================================= OS Information : Built on HP-UX 11i V2 (aka 11.23) Itanium. Certified on 11i v3 (aka 11.31). HTH Hrvoje > -----Original Message----- > From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On > Behalf Of GLENN MITCHELL > Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2008 2:50 PM > To: ids@iiug.org > Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] > > I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to > upgrade to 10.0. > > What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? > > > ************************************************************** > ***************** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. >

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Anup Nair — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:40:07 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Why IDS 10? Why not IDS 11? IDS 10 is going EOM next year and EOS a year after that GA: 25-Feb-2005 EOM: 18-Sep-2009 EOS: 30-Sep-2010 IDS Platform availability : http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/informixpubs/roadmaps.html Also look at the machine notes there IDS 11 s/w requirements: http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname =iSource&supplier=897&letternum=ENUS208-093#@2h@72@ --- On Tue, 11/25/08, GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> wrote: From: GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] To: ids@iiug.org Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:49 AM I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to 10.0. What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

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Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 15:19:33 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Hi, maybe because IDS10 is more stable than IDS11 (tested by more users in production systems) ? Some of the bugs in the new features of IDS11 have yet to found I suppose. I would be careful to use IDS11 in a really large production environment. I think of many concurrent users and many CPUs - not the database size. Regards, Andreas > ------------------------------------------- SPAR Österreichische Warenhandels-AG Hauptzentrale A - 5015 Salzburg, Europastrasse 3 FN 34170 a Tel: +43 662 4470 24223 Mobile: +43 664 6259575 E-Mail: Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at Internet: http://www.spar.at Wichtiger Hinweis: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail kann vertrauliche und rechtlich geschützte Informationen, insbesondere Betriebs- oder Geschäftsgeheimnisse, enthalten, zu deren Geheimhaltung der Empfänger verpflichtet ist. Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail sind ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie die E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben so ersuchen wir Sie, die Nachricht von Ihrem System zu löschen und sich mit uns in Verbindung zu setzen. Über das Internet versandte E-Mails können leicht manipuliert oder unter fremdem Namen erstellt werden. Daher schließen wir die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser Nachricht enthaltenen Informationen aus. Der Inhalt der E-Mail ist nur rechtsverbindlich, wenn er von uns schriftlich bestätigt und gezeichnet wird. Sollte trotz der von uns verwendeten Virus-Schutzprogramme durch die Zusendung von E-Mails ein Virus in Ihre Systeme gelangen, haften wir nicht für evtl. hieraus entstehende Schäden. Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis. Important notice: The contents of this e-mail may contain confidential and legally protected information that is in particular related to operational and trade secrets, which the recipient is obliged to treat as confidential. The information in this e-mail is made available exclusively for use by the addressee. In the event that the e-mail may have been sent to you in error, we would ask you to kindly delete this communication from your system and to contact us. E-mails sent via the Internet can be easily manipulated or sent out under someone else's name. We therefore do not accept legal liability for the information contained in this communication. The contents of the e-mail are only legally binding if they have been confirmed and signed by us in writing. If, in spite of our using Antivirus protection software, a virus may have penetrated your system through the sending of this e-mail, we do not accept liability for any damage that may possibly arise as a result of this. We trust that you appreciate our position. ------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von > Anup Nair > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2008 17:40 > An: ids@iiug.org > Betreff: Re: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14115] > > Why IDS 10? Why not IDS 11? > > IDS 10 is going EOM next year and EOS a year after that > GA: 25-Feb-2005 > EOM: 18-Sep-2009 > EOS: 30-Sep-2010 > > IDS Platform availability : > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/informixpubs/roadmaps.html > > Also look at the machine notes there > > IDS 11 s/w requirements: > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi- > bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum > =ENUS208-093#@2h@72@ > > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> wrote: > From: GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> > Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] > To: ids@iiug.org > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:49 AM > > I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to > 10.0. > > What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

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Celso Cabral Coimbra — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 17:47:31 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Hi Andreas, It depends on which features you use, I have been found some bugs in IDS10.00.FC8 using PDQ, some sessions never ends and the tempdbs decrease free space because some temp tables in those sessions didn't drop the temp tables (the onmode -z do not work to kill the session), to work around this I have do bounce the instance frequently. Other problem is if you use count(*) in a big table with dirty read in PDQ, it last long time. In IDS9.4 I used for a short period, because HPL was instable and haven't worked in my environment. I have migrate some applications from IDS10 to IDS11, and it's running very well. I'm Planning to migrate from IDS10 to IDS11 a very large application on December. IBM is strongly recommending IDS11. And there are a lot of very good new feature in IDS11 which should be helpful. You can find bugs in any version you go. Good luck, Celso Cabral Coimbra Tel. (11) 3576-4509 -----Mensagem original----- De: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Em nome de Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at Enviada em: quarta-feira, 26 de novembro de 2008 13:20 Para: ids@iiug.org Assunto: AW: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14129] Hi, maybe because IDS10 is more stable than IDS11 (tested by more users in production systems) ? Some of the bugs in the new features of IDS11 have yet to found I suppose. I would be careful to use IDS11 in a really large production environment. I think of many concurrent users and many CPUs - not the database size. Regards, Andreas > ------------------------------------------- SPAR Österreichische Warenhandels-AG Hauptzentrale A - 5015 Salzburg, Europastrasse 3 FN 34170 a Tel: +43 662 4470 24223 Mobile: +43 664 6259575 E-Mail: Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at Internet: http://www.spar.at Wichtiger Hinweis: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail kann vertrauliche und rechtlich geschützte Informationen, insbesondere Betriebs- oder Geschäftsgeheimnisse, enthalten, zu deren Geheimhaltung der Empfänger verpflichtet ist. Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail sind ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie die E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben so ersuchen wir Sie, die Nachricht von Ihrem System zu löschen und sich mit uns in Verbindung zu setzen. Über das Internet versandte E-Mails können leicht manipuliert oder unter fremdem Namen erstellt werden. Daher schließen wir die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser Nachricht enthaltenen Informationen aus. Der Inhalt der E-Mail ist nur rechtsverbindlich, wenn er von uns schriftlich bestätigt und gezeichnet wird. Sollte trotz der von uns verwendeten Virus-Schutzprogramme durch die Zusendung von E-Mails ein Virus in Ihre Systeme gelangen, haften wir nicht für evtl. hieraus entstehende Schäden. Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis. Important notice: The contents of this e-mail may contain confidential and legally protected information that is in particular related to operational and trade secrets, which the recipient is obliged to treat as confidential. The information in this e-mail is made available exclusively for use by the addressee. In the event that the e-mail may have been sent to you in error, we would ask you to kindly delete this communication from your system and to contact us. E-mails sent via the Internet can be easily manipulated or sent out under someone else's name. We therefore do not accept legal liability for the information contained in this communication. The contents of the e-mail are only legally binding if they have been confirmed and signed by us in writing. If, in spite of our using Antivirus protection software, a virus may have penetrated your system through the sending of this e-mail, we do not accept liability for any damage that may possibly arise as a result of this. We trust that you appreciate our position. ------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von > Anup Nair > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2008 17:40 > An: ids@iiug.org > Betreff: Re: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14115] > > Why IDS 10? Why not IDS 11? > > IDS 10 is going EOM next year and EOS a year after that > GA: 25-Feb-2005 > EOM: 18-Sep-2009 > EOS: 30-Sep-2010 > > IDS Platform availability : > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/informixpubs/roadmaps.html > > Also look at the machine notes there > > IDS 11 s/w requirements: > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi- > bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum > =ENUS208-093#@2h@72@ > > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> wrote: > From: GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> > Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] > To: ids@iiug.org > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:49 AM > > I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to > 10.0. > > What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

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jak aka — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 13:02:33 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Hello Andreas, 11.10 or 11.50 or both comparing with 10. Which version is the most stable? Regards, Jakkrit A. ________________________________ From: "Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at" <andreas.kutsche@spar.at> To: ids@iiug.org Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:19:33 PM Subject: AW: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14129] Hi, maybe because IDS10 is more stable than IDS11 (tested by more users in production systems) ? Some of the bugs in the new features of IDS11 have yet to found I suppose. I would be careful to use IDS11 in a really large production environment. I think of many concurrent users and many CPUs - not the database size. Regards, Andreas > ------------------------------------------- SPAR Österreichische Warenhandels-AG Hauptzentrale A - 5015 Salzburg, Europastrasse 3 FN 34170 a Tel: +43 662 4470 24223 Mobile: +43 664 6259575 E-Mail: Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at Internet: http://www.spar.at Wichtiger Hinweis: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail kann vertrauliche und rechtlich geschützte Informationen, insbesondere Betriebs- oder Geschäftsgeheimnisse, enthalten, zu deren Geheimhaltung der Empfänger verpflichtet ist. Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail sind ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie die E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben so ersuchen wir Sie, die Nachricht von Ihrem System zu löschen und sich mit uns in Verbindung zu setzen. Über das Internet versandte E-Mails können leicht manipuliert oder unter fremdem Namen erstellt werden. Daher schließen wir die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser Nachricht enthaltenen Informationen aus. Der Inhalt der E-Mail ist nur rechtsverbindlich, wenn er von uns schriftlich bestätigt und gezeichnet wird. Sollte trotz der von uns verwendeten Virus-Schutzprogramme durch die Zusendung von E-Mails ein Virus in Ihre Systeme gelangen, haften wir nicht für evtl. hieraus entstehende Schäden. Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis. Important notice: The contents of this e-mail may contain confidential and legally protected information that is in particular related to operational and trade secrets, which the recipient is obliged to treat as confidential. The information in this e-mail is made available exclusively for use by the addressee. In the event that the e-mail may have been sent to you in error, we would ask you to kindly delete this communication from your system and to contact us. E-mails sent via the Internet can be easily manipulated or sent out under someone else's name. We therefore do not accept legal liability for the information contained in this communication. The contents of the e-mail are only legally binding if they have been confirmed and signed by us in writing. If, in spite of our using Antivirus protection software, a virus may have penetrated your system through the sending of this e-mail, we do not accept liability for any damage that may possibly arise as a result of this. We trust that you appreciate our position. ------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von > Anup Nair > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2008 17:40 > An: ids@iiug.org > Betreff: Re: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14115] > > Why IDS 10? Why not IDS 11? > > IDS 10 is going EOM next year and EOS a year after that > GA: 25-Feb-2005 > EOM: 18-Sep-2009 > EOS: 30-Sep-2010 > > IDS Platform availability : > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/informixpubs/roadmaps.html > > Also look at the machine notes there > > IDS 11 s/w requirements: > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi- > bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum > =ENUS208-093#@2h@72@ > > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> wrote: > From: GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> > Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] > To: ids@iiug.org > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:49 AM > > I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to > 10.0. > > What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

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Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 14:41:47 — source: IIUG Forums & Mailing Lists

Hi, I don't know which is the most stable version because we don't use 11.x yet. But we have discovered some bugs when upgrading to new versions (even to patch releases) in the past (e.g. accumulating temp tables with shared sql cache, optimizer bugs with wrong result sets, memory leak in network function, ...) - therefore I can understand anybody who doesn't want to upgrade to the most recent version. Regards, Andreas > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von jak > aka > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 27. November 2008 14:03 > An: ids@iiug.org > Betreff: Re: AW: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14134] > > Hello Andreas, > > 11.10 or 11.50 or both comparing with 10. Which version is the most > stable? > > Regards, > Jakkrit A. > > ________________________________ > From: "Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at" <andreas.kutsche@spar.at> > To: ids@iiug.org > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 10:19:33 PM > Subject: AW: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14129] > > Hi, > > maybe because IDS10 is more stable than IDS11 (tested by more users in > production systems) ? > Some of the bugs in the new features of IDS11 have yet to found I suppose. > > I would be careful to use IDS11 in a really large production environment. > I > think of many concurrent users and many CPUs - not the database size. > > Regards, > Andreas > > > > ------------------------------------------- > SPAR Österreichische Warenhandels-AG > Hauptzentrale > A - 5015 Salzburg, Europastrasse 3 > FN 34170 a > > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von > > Anup Nair > > Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2008 17:40 > > An: ids@iiug.org > > Betreff: Re: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14115] > > > > Why IDS 10? Why not IDS 11? > > > > IDS 10 is going EOM next year and EOS a year after that > > GA: 25-Feb-2005 > > EOM: 18-Sep-2009 > > EOS: 30-Sep-2010 > > > > IDS Platform availability : > > http://www-01.ibm.com/software/data/informixpubs/roadmaps.html > > > > Also look at the machine notes there > > > > IDS 11 s/w requirements: > > http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi- > > > bin/ssialias?subtype=ca&infotype=an&appname=iSource&supplier=897&letternum > > =ENUS208-093#@2h@72@ > > > > --- On Tue, 11/25/08, GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> > wrote: > > From: GLENN MITCHELL <gmitchell@courts.state.va.us> > > Subject: HP-UX version for Informix 10.0 [14107] > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Date: Tuesday, November 25, 2008, 5:49 AM > > > > I'm currently running Informix version 9.40 and would like to upgrade to > > 10.0. > > > > What hp-ux version do I need to be at? 11.31? > > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > > ***** > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > > ************************************************************************** > > ***** > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.

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