Re: {Spam?} RE: SAP buys Sybase .. but why?

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Spoken like a true clown. ;-) > > Uhm.. > Ok... I really don't have time to play, but ... well... you're being a > bit slow... > > What is MaxDB? It's, uh, SAP's in-house database that they've spent millions developing. > Its yet another proprietary database which no one knows anything about. > Did you look at the license? You don't have to be a lawyer to see a > couple of 'red flags'. > [I'm alluding to the fact that you can download it for free for things > outside of SAP.] > > So you have a product that you can embed in your SAP instance. Does it > scale? How well is it supported? Well, I'm guessing if it can run SAP, it can scale pretty well and it is probably supported as well as SAP is. Which, in my experience is "pretty damn well." Just guessing here, mind. > Yes I knew about MaxDB and my comment was why spend the billions on > Sybase when it would be cheaper to build your own 'in house' version. > Of course I was thinking more along the lines of a Postgres distro where > you have some critical mass and some lineage, not just build it from the > ground up, when you have no credibility. Um, look, are you seriously questioning SAP's credibility? Do you have *any* fucking idea of how things work in the SAP marketplace? > It would be interesting to see what sort of license numbers they have on > MaxDB. > > But then again, what do I know? > (Clearly more than I can talk about. ;-) Clearly *less* than you ARE talking about. > The point was why did SAP need their own database. Why did they purchase > Sybase. Beyond the relational database, I seem to recall that Sybase was > also playing in the web services and tools too. So you're getting more > than just databases. That's in part, the value add. Also I'd look into > Sybase's financials. Did they want to be sold? On a side note, think > of what IBM could do if SWG wasn't stuck in silos. ;-) > (And yes, while there is some cross silo development, its minimal.) SAP already *had* their own database. Maybe they were looking for something to inject technology into MaxDB. Maybe they're tired of selling applications and want to start selling databases now. Who knows? Apart from you, of course. > > Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 13:10:12 +0100 > > From: obnoxio@serendipita.com > > CC: informix-list@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: SAP buys Sybase .. but why? > > > > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > > Sigh. > > > > > > Ok... if you follow the rumors, prior to the IBM buy, SAP had also > > > wanted to buy Informix. > > > (There was a run up on the stock price, but someone said that the > board > > > didn't want to sell to a foreign company... Not that I put too much > > > stock in the rumor.) > > > > > > The reason why SAP wants to buy Sybase is simple. They don't have an > > > "in-house" database and well IBM can only offer up DB2. And we saw > just > > > how many customers want SAP on DB2. > > > > > > So when a customer is interested in SAP, they look at Microsoft or > > > Oracle. If they are too large for Microsoft, you now are handing a > lead > > > over to Oracle since they sell their own series of products. (Oracle > > > Financials, PeopleSoft, JDE, etc ...) So why introduce your competitor > > > in to your sale? (You can thank Janet P for that one ...) > > > > > > > > > Its really that simple and I'm amazed that El Reg couldn't figure that > > > one out. > > > > > > But man, they are paying a premium. They'd be better off taking a > forked > > > version of MySQL or Postgres and bringing it in house. > > > > > > But hey! What do I know? > > > > http://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/maxdb > > > > Clearly, very fucking little indeed. -- Cheers, Obnoxio The Clown http://obotheclown.blogspot.com I will now proceed to pleasure myself with this fish. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.