Re: INFORMIX WISH LIST

In article <33A5AECA.61F7@segel.NO.SPAM.KINGOFMYDOMAIN.SPAM.NO.com>, Michael Segel <mikey@segel.NO.SPAM.KINGOFMYDOMAIN.SPAM.NO.com> writes >Tim Schaefer wrote: >> >> Richard Stanford wrote: >> > >> > On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Tim Schaefer wrote: >> > >> > > I would have loved to have helped out, but did anybody call me? Did >> > > anybody ask me to evaluate New Era? Did anybody email me and tell me >> > > to stop poopooing New Era? No on all counts. So I continue to poopoo >> > > New Era and Informix for excluding me in the future of their products. >> > >> > Whoa there. Bitter yesterday, were you? Seriously, have you called your >> > Informix rep and asked to get in on beta tests, product evaluations, etc? >> >[SNIP] >{You get the idea...} > >In Tim's defense, I'll point out a few unknown facts: > >First, your mileage will vary when it comes to sales reps. >I have know quite a few sales reps, and sales management over the >last several years. Some have been excellent, some have been good, >and well, some have been piss poor. This is one of the >reasons Informix has re-organized their sales force in several areas. >(Heck, *I* could probably sell some of the products better than > some of their salesmen ;-) [Whoops! I'm going to get cooked for that >one!] >Second, unless you work for a very big Informix shop, you will NOT, >get the following chances: > >1) To be on the Customer Advisory board to Informix. (I forget the > real name, but its the big dog group which has direct input > to Phil baby ;-) > Where I'd like to be. >2) You will not get the chance to participate in their Beta Program. > Unless you are a major customer, yada, yada, yada. > Again where I'd like to be IN the program not OUT of it. >3) Certain products exist out of a political need. > New Era was created what 5-6 years ago when the current slew > of development tools didn't exist. > >4) You have to remember one of the problems which Informix > had was that they believed their marketing hype. I mean > to say is that while the technology is there, there are > several glitches which don't make it ready for prime time. > This always exists, however it has gotten bad over the > past year or so. Hint: Look at the release of Online 7.x > from its announcement to its general availability. > ONLINE 7 WAS A COMPLETE REWRITE, let's see you rewrite it in the same timeframe... >While I don't agree with the idea of posting a wish/whine list, >I think that it does show the degree of frustration felt by >the little guy who has to support the products sold by a >marketing guy to his upper management. > Yep, that's me - I get to use OWS 7, Online 5 and SE 4/7, don't even use DSA in my current job. I have the manauals and keep the knowledge fresh by helping out here but where's my copy of Universal Server? or EXtended Parallel Server? You know things I can install in my own time outside of company hours e.g. at the weekend and play with... >Oh, I mispoke. If you happen to have a copy of Universal Server, >then you *ARE* in the beta test program. ;-) >[LIBERAL toungue in cheek! 8^] [Shit eating grin] > >Just a few thoughts from your favorite Uncle! > >-Mikey -- David Williams