ontape in 9.4
A user migrating from IDS 7.3 to 9.4 on HP-UX wanted to automate nightly level-0 archives from cron. Feeding a file containing a newline to "ontape -s -L 0 < infile" didn't satisfy ontape's prompts, even though the same trick worked for log backups (ontape -a). Suggested workarounds were piping the input instead, e.g. echo '0\\n\\n' | ontape -s -L, or a script that defines RETURN='\\n' and echoes it to the running ontape after a sleep. It was also clarified that ALLOW_NEWLINE concerns newline characters allowed in CHAR data, and that in 9.4 ontape and onbar are supported but onarchive is not. No confirmation from the original poster is recorded.
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Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on HP-UX 11.
We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs
every hour.
We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are handled by
a=20
cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
job, I have no=20
problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file that simply
has a return.
Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the same type
of thing
for the nightly archive. However, I can't seem to get the "ontape -s -L
0 <infile" command
to recognize the return that is in the infile. I'm surprised since this
seems to be what I am
doing for logical logs.
Am I missing something????
Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the
onconfig file
is for.
Thanks in advance for any assistance......mick
ALLOW_NEWLINE, I believe, has to do with newlines in the data, such as a
char . . .
Is there a difference in ontape between 7.3 and 9.4? Maybe extra input
needed??
-----Original Message-----
From: Putillo, Mick J [mailto:MickPutillo@chevrontexaco.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:42 PM
To: ids@iiug.org
Subject: ontape in 9.4 [1840]
Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on HP-UX 11. We
currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs every hour.
We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are handled by
a=20 cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
job, I have no=20 problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file
that simply has a return. Since I will be losing my operator, I am
attempting to do the same type of thing for the nightly archive. However, I
can't seem to get the "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command to recognize the
return that is in the infile. I'm surprised since this seems to be what I
am doing for logical logs. Am I missing something????
Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the onconfig
file is for. Thanks in advance for any assistance......mick
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> Behalf Of Putillo, Mick J
>
>
> Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on
> HP-UX 11.
> We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs
> every hour.
> We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are
> handled by
> a=20
> cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
> job, I have no=20
> problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file that simply
> has a return.
> Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the
> same type of thing
> for the nightly archive. However, I can't seem to get the
> "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command
> to recognize the return that is in the infile. I'm surprised
> since this seems to be what I am doing for logical logs.
> Am I missing something????
I find "echo '0\\
\\
' | ontape -s -L " is easier syntax than < infile
>
> Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the
> onconfig file is for.
New line characters are allowed in char fields in 9.4 version.
Colin Bull
Is
ontape still supported in 9.4?
What about onarchive?
Just curious..... I've done both... am on onbar now.
thanks,
Norma Jean
-----Original Message-----
From: c.bull@videonetworks.com [mailto:c.bull@videonetworks.com]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:29 AM
To: ids@iiug.org; forum.subscriber@iiug.org
Subject: RE: ontape in 9.4 [1847]
> Behalf Of Putillo, Mick J
>
>
> Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on
> HP-UX 11.
> We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs
> every hour.
> We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are
> handled by
> a=20
> cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
> job, I have no=20
> problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file that simply
> has a return.
> Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the
> same type of thing
> for the nightly archive. However, I can't seem to get the
> "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command
> to recognize the return that is in the infile. I'm surprised
> since this seems to be what I am doing for logical logs.
> Am I missing something????
I find "echo '0\\\\
\\\\
' | ontape -s -L " is easier syntax than < infile
>
> Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the
> onconfig file is for.
New line characters are allowed in char fields in 9.4 version.
Colin Bull
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> Behalf Of Putillo, Mick J\\par
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> Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on \\par
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> We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs\\par
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> We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are \\par
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> a=20\\par
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> Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the \\par
> same type of thing\\par
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> Am I missing something????\\par
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I find "echo '0\\\\n\\\\n' | ontape -s -L " is easier syntax than < infile\\par
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> \\par
> Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the\\par
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Hi
onbar and ontape is supported in IDS 9.4.
onarchive is NOT!
bye
Sandor
"NormaJean.S...."
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12.09.2003 13:29
Is ontape still supported in 9.4?
What about onarchive?
Just curious..... I've done both... am on onbar now.
thanks,
Norma Jean
-----Original Message-----
From: c.bull@videonetworks.com [mailto:c.bull@videonetworks.com]
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2003 2:29 AM
To: ids@iiug.org; forum.subscriber@iiug.org
Subject: RE: ontape in 9.4 [1847]
> Behalf Of Putillo, Mick J
>
>
> Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on
> HP-UX 11.
> We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs
> every hour.
> We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are
> handled by
> a=20
> cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
> job, I have no=20
> problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file that simply
> has a return.
> Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the
> same type of thing
> for the nightly archive. However, I can't seem to get the
> "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command
> to recognize the return that is in the infile. I'm surprised
> since this seems to be what I am doing for logical logs.
> Am I missing something????
I find "echo '0\\\\
\\\\
' | ontape -s -L " is easier syntax than < infile
>
> Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the
> onconfig file is for.
New line characters are allowed in char fields in 9.4 version.
Colin Bull
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> Behalf Of Putillo, Mick J\\par
> \\par
> \\par
> Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on \\par
> HP-UX 11.\\par
> We currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs\\par
> every hour.\\par
> We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are \\par
> handled by\\par
> a=20\\par
> cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log\\par
> job, I have no=20\\par
> problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file that simply\\par
> has a return.\\par
> Since I will be losing my operator, I am attempting to do the \\par
> same type of thing\\par
> for the nightly archive. However, I can't seem to get the \\par
> "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command\\par
> to recognize the return that is in the infile. I'm surprised \\par
> since this seems to be what I am doing for logical logs.\\par
> Am I missing something????\\par
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I find "echo '0\\\\n\\\\n' | ontape -s -L " is easier syntax than < infile\\par
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> \\par
> Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the\\par
> onconfig file is for.\\par
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New line characters are allowed in char fields in 9.4 version.\\par
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Colin Bull\\par
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This is what works for me:
I have a script, backup.ksh which defines a variable: RETURN='\\
'
and executes:
ontape -s -L 0 > /usr/informix/ontapeout.log 2>&1 | sleep 10 | echo $RETURN
-----Original Message-----
From: John Carlson [mailto:John_Carlson@whsmithusa.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:49 PM
To: ids@iiug.org
Subject: RE: ontape in 9.4 [1842]
ALLOW_NEWLINE, I believe, has to do with newlines in the data, such as a
char . . .
Is there a difference in ontape between 7.3 and 9.4? Maybe extra input
needed??
-----Original Message-----
From: Putillo, Mick J [mailto:MickPutillo@chevrontexaco.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2003 2:42 PM
To: ids@iiug.org
Subject: ontape in 9.4 [1840]
Hi. I am in the process of migrating from IDS 7.30 to 9.4 on HP-UX 11. We
currently run a full archive nightly and backup the logical logs every hour.
We archive to tape and backup the logs to disk. The logs are handled by
a=20 cron job, while an operator handles the archive. For the logical log
job, I have no=20 problems running ontape -a with stdin redirected to a file
that simply has a return. Since I will be losing my operator, I am
attempting to do the same type of thing for the nightly archive. However, I
can't seem to get the "ontape -s -L 0 <infile" command to recognize the
return that is in the infile. I'm surprised since this seems to be what I
am doing for logical logs. Am I missing something????
Also, does anyone know what the "ALLOW_NEWLINE" parameter in the onconfig
file is for. Thanks in advance for any assistance......mick
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