Re: database market share 2003
Not a technical thread: this is a tail-end of a "database market share 2003" argument that has drifted entirely into politics and history. Participants dispute whether plug-compatible IBM mainframes are still sold to new accounts, whether IBM's mainframe dominance is a monopoly, and which US administrations (Eisenhower's 1956 consent decree, Johnson, Reagan) helped or hindered it, with links to historical references. There is no Informix or other technical problem posed and no resolution; one poster even jokes about the lack of Informix content.
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Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:07 PM: > When IBM mainframes (or plug compatibles) already have 90% penetration in > the Fortune 500 (in terms of accounts), how many new accounts are you > expecting? None. It's called a monopoly. Something Reaganomics favored. > But that is not the point. I am still awaiting a retraction on your claim > that there are no plug compatible IBM mainframes available for customers > today. There aren't. Fact is: not one is sold to new accounts. > I realize that I may have to wait in line for a retraction (due to > the many inaccuracies in your posts), but I am patient. Try fishing. trolling is not your forte... -- Cheers Nuno Souto wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam
> > When IBM mainframes (or plug compatibles) already have 90% penetration in > > the Fortune 500 (in terms of accounts), how many new accounts are you > > expecting? > > None. It's called a monopoly. Something Reaganomics favored. > > -- > Cheers > Nuno Souto IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was president. Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely controlled the House of Representatives, and usually controlled the Senate.
Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:21 PM: > IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was > president. And that "proves" Reagan did not favor IBM because?...... > Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there > were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely > controlled the House of Representatives, and usually controlled the Senate. And for that they copped it. And Reagan removed the restriction, thereby ensuring it REMAINED a monopoly. That's what "favored" means, BTW. -- Cheers Nuno Souto wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam
Noons wrote: > Mark A allegedly said,on my timestamp of 11/06/2004 11:21 PM: > >> IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was >> president. > > And that "proves" Reagan did not favor IBM because?...... > > > Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there >> were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely >> controlled the House of Representatives, and usually controlled the >> Senate. > > And for that they copped it. And Reagan removed the restriction, > thereby ensuring it REMAINED a monopoly. That's what "favored" > means, BTW. Am not sure, what is monopoly? Is gaem for litle children yes? This work with Infomrix how? -- Enor
"Enor P" <enor_1@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:2ittp7Fr9ufnU1@uni-berlin.de... > Am not sure, what is monopoly? Is gaem for litle children yes? This work > with Infomrix how? > -- > Enor Monopoly is a game for big children like Bill Gates and Larry Ellison.
"Mark A" <ma@switchboard.net> wrote in message news:<Skiyc.19$bI1.15719@news.uswest.net>... > > > When IBM mainframes (or plug compatibles) already have 90% penetration > in > > > the Fortune 500 (in terms of accounts), how many new accounts are you > > > expecting? > > > > None. It's called a monopoly. Something Reaganomics favored. > > > > -- > > Cheers > > Nuno Souto > > IBM became a monopoly on the mainframe platform long before Reagan was > president. Their biggest growth period was the 1960's and 1970's when there > were quite a few Democratic presidents, and when Democrats completely > controlled the House of Representatives, and usually controlled the Senate. The 1956 consent decree, which all the subsequent market opening derived from because it required IBM to sell, rather than lease, was under Eisenhower. The biggest growth happened in spite of the monopoly breakdown, because of trust formation, which Johnson famously busted, and IBM being able to come up with far more capital than competitors, both for technological standardization and sales force mobilization. http://www.yale.edu/ynhti/curriculum/units/1983/4/83.04.06.x.html http://www.computerhistory.org/events/lectures/amdahl_09052001/ jg -- @home.com is bogus. Net libel lawsuit: http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20040611/news_1n11pledge.html