Re: DBMS Selection for 500+GB data and 500
w1willi@ucs.att.com (w1willi@ucs.att.com) wrote: > >>Hear, Hear, Lets see some more quotes from that article: (And grab those >>gartner group reports, they are the best thing for Oracle or haven't >>you read one lately?) > >Agreed, Tom. Let's see some more quotes from that article. And grab >your thinking cap: quoting out of context is a dangerous thing! > Ah, thank you for pointing out what I was also trying to point out.... I find it an extremely good way to negate a point. > snip >$2 billion mining company Freeport McMoran, Inc. and the $9 billion Home >Depot retailer." > >Did you not want to quote *that* particular paragraph, Tom? Did the original poster *not* want to quote the particular ones I did, Bill? > snip >>making the decision to go with them.... > >This is true of any company - it will either succeed or it will fail. >But here the original author is quoting opinions offered by "15 users >and analysts interviewed by Computerworld." > >Whose opinion? Quoted for what reason? Based on what facts? Opinion-quoting >is a way of getting one's own hidden agenda across while seeming to >have facts at hand - and opinions are *not* facts. So let's skip the >opinions and look at one hard fact as a sample. > Excellent observation, so a *project manager* (not a techie remember) saying that: >"'Informix had the better architecture by far,' said Howard Fischer, senior project >manager for database services at Sears Merchandise Group in Hoffman Estates, Ill. >... Looking for a corporate downsizing standard, Sears pitted Informix OnLine >against Oracle in mid-1994. Sears was impressed with OnLine, but a few personal >visits from White clinched the deal ..." Is in fact: >a way of getting one's own hidden agenda across while seeming to >have facts at hand - and opinions are *not* facts. So let's skip the Well Said, Bill. >HP and Informix have teamed up as industry partners - and I don't think for So, Oracle and HP did that a long time ago. snip >planned >post of half-truths and misquotes. It was and is intended to misinform corporate >customers who can't afford Oracle Corp's overpriced products which might not >even fit their needs. You fight FUD with FUD sometimes. Have you checked out an Informix Price sheet versus Oracle's recently? No it wasn't intended to misinform corporate customers but rather to ensure the original post would be taken with a grain of salt. > >> >>Comment-- Its pretty easy to take one quote out of an article and use >>it to make a point, however the article in general is not something >>your Informix Sales rep will handing out if you read the *whole* thing. > >What's sauce for the goose ... Let's read what was left out again. > See, I showed you how easy it really is (to quote an article to your advantage). Again, I don't think Informix will be handing this one out (well, I don't see it on http://www.informix.com/corpinfo/ifxnews/press/1995/press95.htm anyway) You missed the whole point of my post which was: Its pretty easy to take one quote out of an article and use it to make a point, ..... > >Let's see Ellison go visit his customers and *personally* stand by his product line! > Been there, done that. He does do that when needed. If a visit from the CEO is what you base your software purchases on and not for purely technical reasons.... You know, that is what clinched it for Sears, a visit from Mr. White. wow. I thought they (CEO's) were supposed to run the company, not make field sales calls. > > > > >Bill Williams > >+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ >| Disclaimer: My views, opinions, etc., are not those of AT&T or | >| or ATSI, Inc, nor should they be. | >+-----------------------------------------------------------------+ > > -- Thomas Kyte tkyte@us.oracle.com Oracle Government