RE: For fans of GUI tools

I think that there's a bit of confusion. OTC points to a graphical tool that helps with back end database to java object mapping. (Doesn't the new JPA take better care of this?) This doesn't do anything for your GUI. Its a *GUI* tool not a *GUI BUILDER*. And yes, 4GL to EGL was a complete waste of time. You're doing a paradigm shift from a 4GL (shell window) environment to a multiple window/popup environment. Your MVC is a bit more complex in the V and C layers/components. If you're going to shift your display paradigm from a single window app to a multiple window app, forked or threaded app, you need to probably rethink your design a bit. But from the descriptions of Data Studio Developer, that's not what you're getting. If you're doing any GUI (SWING, AWT), you will probably want to look at NetBeans over Eclipse. I use both and I think NetBeans is a bit more polished. If you're looking at newer languages, there's Ruby/Rails, and Groovy/Grails although depending on what you want to do, they may not be the best tools to work with. > Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2008 13:29:24 +0100 > From: iiug@perrior.net > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: For fans of GUI tools > > > > Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > > Personally, I've got no idea about this shit, because dbaccess and onstat > > is all I ever want or need. But if you like pretty pictures and > > clicky-clicky, you might like this: > > http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/downloads/im/datastudiodev/ > > > > I'd rather get stuff done, but hey! what do I know? It's not like I'm > > developing a multi-billion dollar business strategy to conquer the world! > > > > :o) > > > > > I started looking at it until I saw: > > "Use Data Studio Developer to: > ...Provide a seamless Eclipse-based SQL/Java experience" > > ...and I ran screaming from the room. > > Having tried the much-touted (and it's all gone rather quiet on that > front now hasn't it?) 4gl-to-java converter addon for data studio I am > firmly of the opinion that there is NOTHING seamless about ANYTHING > eclipse-based, especially when you include SQL and java in the equation. > And anything that uses corporate buzzwords like 'experience' when it's > talking about a programming environment needs seriously to be redrafted. > IMHO. > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ See how Windows connects the people, information, and fun that are part of your life. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/msnnkwxp1020093175mrt/direct/01/