Re: Insider #75: Highlights: IBM Information On Demand 2006,The Next Informix IDS Release...
Not a technical thread: it's a discussion thread about the cost of the IIUG/IDUG-style Informix conference held in Vienna. A Croatian poster notes that although Vienna is only a few hours from Zagreb, only one Informix person from the country could attend because the fee (which bundles Hilton venue, meals and drinks) was too high, arguing a ~500 Euro price would draw more delegates. Replies suggest organising a cheaper local user-group event and asking IBM to supply speakers, and point out cheaper lodging away from the conference hotel. No resolution is recorded beyond the poster saying they will try the local-event idea.
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Since your previous post was a reaction to mine, I feel I should comment some more... > Actually, if you actually read my post you would have noticed that I was > blasting people for the following: > 1. Moaning that they had to pay for education; > 2. Moaning that the IIUG never did anything in Europe and then moaning for > what they did do when they did it; > 3. Moaning that there was always something wrong with the education > offered by the IIUG and other local user groups yet not having the > gumption to get involved and contribute something themselves. I couldn't agree more. I saw an agenda, the speakers' names, I'm sure it will be a great conference, and finally one in Europe. Of course that such an education event should be paid for. Of course moaning serves no purpose at all. Now, here is the irony: Vienna is only a few hours drive from Croatia's capital, Zagreb, where the most of the Informix users in Croatia are. I personally know many people (DBA's mainly) who wanted to attend. The truth is that only one person (in the whole country) was able to go. One and only reason - the price. That's not moaning, that's dissapointment. To quote TBP, if the price was 500 Euros at least few more people would go, for the same net price. None of them go to conferences for drinks and food, they do that on weekend barbecues at home :-) Yes, finally one great IIUG conference in Europe, almost a walking distance away, and we still can't go...
Davorin Kremenjas said: > To quote TBP, if the price was 500 Euros at least few more people would > go, > for the same net price. > None of them go to conferences for drinks and food, they do that on > weekend > barbecues at home :-) Well, then, why not put together your own conference and organise your own venues and ask IBM if they will send speakers to attend? Then you can charge whatever you like ... if anything! I can't imagine people are paying that kind of money JUST to eat Hilton food, though. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "... no bill is required as no value was provided." -- Christine Normile -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Davorin Kremenjas wrote: > Now, here is the irony: Vienna is only a few hours drive from Croatia's > capital, Zagreb, where the most of the Informix users in Croatia are. > I personally know many people (DBA's mainly) who wanted to attend. The truth > is that only one person (in the whole country) was able to go. Careful with that truth claim. IDUG are handing out little flags to be put on the tags for those who like it. And I saw a cluster of at least 4 Croatians together just a few hours ago. I was neither drunk, nor were my glasses dirty :-) Nonetheless the lunch is indeed first class and one could have gotten away cheaper. Also there is no reason to stay at the Hilton since it's just across the road from the subway and smack downtown. Since it's the end of tourist seasons there ought to be tons of bed & breakfast within a 1hr commute at a more affordable rate. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab IOD Conference http://www.ibm.com/software/data/ondemandbusiness/conf2006/
"Serge Rielau" <srielau@ca.ibm.com> wrote in message news:4ohv3fFekvj2U1@individual.net... > Also there is no reason to stay at the Hilton since it's just across the > road from the subway and smack downtown. There's a special downtown for smack? Normally we have to go into the suburbs to get it.
"they do that on weekend barbecues at home :-)" Croatians barbecue???? Really? What do they barbecue? We here in St. Louis like to barbecue Pork butt --- Davorin Kremenjas <davorin.kremenjas@alfatec.hr> wrote: > Since your previous post was a reaction to mine, I > feel I should comment > some more... > > > Actually, if you actually read my post you would > have noticed that I was > > blasting people for the following: > > 1. Moaning that they had to pay for education; > > 2. Moaning that the IIUG never did anything in > Europe and then moaning for > > what they did do when they did it; > > 3. Moaning that there was always something wrong > with the education > > offered by the IIUG and other local user groups > yet not having the > > gumption to get involved and contribute something > themselves. > > I couldn't agree more. I saw an agenda, the > speakers' names, I'm sure it > will be a great conference, and finally one in > Europe. > Of course that such an education event should be > paid for. Of course moaning > serves no purpose at all. > > Now, here is the irony: Vienna is only a few hours > drive from Croatia's > capital, Zagreb, where the most of the Informix > users in Croatia are. > I personally know many people (DBA's mainly) who > wanted to attend. The truth > is that only one person (in the whole country) was > able to go. > One and only reason - the price. > That's not moaning, that's dissapointment. > To quote TBP, if the price was 500 Euros at least > few more people would go, > for the same net price. > None of them go to conferences for drinks and food, > they do that on weekend > barbecues at home :-) > > Yes, finally one great IIUG conference in Europe, > almost a walking distance > away, and we still can't go... > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
> Careful with that truth claim. IDUG are handing out little flags to be put > on the tags for those who like it. And I saw a cluster of at least 4 > Croatians together just a few hours ago. DB2 (mainframe) folks, I just checked with the colleague who's there. I refered just to Informixers previously. Nevertheless, good advice from Clown. We'll try.