Re: Dimmy vs Dumby: who's right? Or, who is more right? :o)

On Sep 3, 5:48 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Sphincter, > > This is my last response to you. That's good. > If you are a US Citizen and employed by IBM I can find out who you are and get > you not only fired, but sued for slander and a whole lot more. I hope you don't > work for IBM, it will not go good for you. > I have a feeling that splinter doesn't work for IBM anymore. I have a feeling that splinter has a chip on his shoulder. (Compensation for the missing piece of wood that normally fits between his legs perhaps?) (Hey folks, Splinter started it...) > Have a nice day! > > -ID- Timmy, That's the perfect attitude to take. Lets face it, if we broke down the net new licenses, we'll see two groups. Licenses sold to existing large Informix customers and licenses sold to net new customers. (Putting aside the licenses sold to the existing customers like Wally mart, K-Sears, and a certain large home store based out of Hot-lanta) If IDS sales is broken down, one has to ask themselves how many of these net new customer sales were done via IBM's S&D as the lead, or through a BP/ISV ? Now we'll never know these numbers since we're not IBMers and even then, we're not at the right pay grade. (Sorry Serge, neither are you. A band 10 lab rat doesn't rate.) But that doesn't mean that those numbers don't exist. They do. Perhaps not in current form because it would mean someone was doing some market analysis and sales analysis, rather than globe trotting and putting out fires. (Hi Alyse! :-) Jerry K and Cathy E would/should know these numbers as well. Its very important to understand the 5 Ws (Who What Where When and Why) of these sales. The point is that based on what I've seen and heard, even taken with a grain of salt... These sales are coming from BP and ISV leads and not the IBM S&D team. The only good thing about IBM not having an S&D team up to speed on these things is that if they get a customer who want's Informix, they are forced to bring in a partner. Like Xtivia for example to handle the customer's services needs. (Mark Scranton's current employer). Yes, some companies can get very fat in a symbiotic relationship, or just feeding off IBM's leftovers. ;-) But I digress. So, one has to ask... how much more successful would IDS be if IBM were to actively sell the product? But what do I know? I'm just a regular guy... ;-)