Informix on Campus Program
Not a technical problem thread. The poster asked readers to vote for a proposal (on informix-zone.com) to create an "Informix on Campus" program putting IDS in universities so students learn it early. Replies were supportive, arguing students become tomorrow's buyers, with Sun's 1990s rise via campus workstations cited as evidence. Others countered with counter-examples (DEC VAX, Prime, MIMER) showing campus exposure doesn't guarantee later purchases, and the thread drifted into nostalgia about vendor history. No outcome or decision is recorded.
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Want your vote on this: http://www.informix-zone.com/node/569 Thank you.
Good work Eric! I've been preaching this for years. You've got to get students involved early in learning about databases. Informix's doc team put out a great book on SQL over 10 years ago, still one of the best reads. Todays' students are tomorrows' database engineers and managers. -ID- eric@herber-consulting.de wrote: > Want your vote on this: > > http://www.informix-zone.com/node/569 > > Thank you.
On Sep 22, 4:13 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Good work Eric! > > I've been preaching this for years. You've got to get students involved early > in learning about databases. Informix's doc team put out a great book on SQL > over 10 years ago, still one of the best reads. Todays' students are tomorrows' > database engineers and managers. > > -ID- > > e...@herber-consulting.de wrote: > > Want your vote on this: > > >http://www.informix-zone.com/node/569 > > > Thank you. How do you think Sun Microsystems got to be so big? (Do you remember the Sun 3/60 workstations?)
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > On Sep 22, 4:13 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: >> Good work Eric! >> >> I've been preaching this for years. You've got to get students involved early >> in learning about databases. Informix's doc team put out a great book on SQL >> over 10 years ago, still one of the best reads. Todays' students are tomorrows' >> database engineers and managers. >> >> -ID- >> >> e...@herber-consulting.de wrote: >>> Want your vote on this: >>> http://www.informix-zone.com/node/569 >>> Thank you. > > How do you think Sun Microsystems got to be so big? > (Do you remember the Sun 3/60 workstations?) > > Do you think Sun today is different from the Sun of say, hmmmm... 1995?
On Sep 22, 10:55 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > On Sep 22, 4:13 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > >> Good work Eric! > > >> I've been preaching this for years. You've got to get students involved early > >> in learning about databases. Informix's doc team put out a great book on SQL > >> over 10 years ago, still one of the best reads. Todays' students are tomorrows' > >> database engineers and managers. > > >> -ID- > > >> e...@herber-consulting.de wrote: > >>> Want your vote on this: > >>>http://www.informix-zone.com/node/569 > >>> Thank you. > > > How do you think Sun Microsystems got to be so big? > > (Do you remember the Sun 3/60 workstations?) > > Do you think Sun today is different from the Sun of say, hmmmm... 1995? 1995? Hmmm, I was thinking more late 80's. 3/60 workstations, some in tandem config so we could build and boot Xinu for our Operating Systems class. Then there were the Sun 460 servers .... ;-) The point is that Sun Micro boomed in the 90's because the students at the Universities worked on Sun. Remember Apollo workstations? ... But yeah good things come to an end. Sun almost bankrupted IBM and then Lou came in and made IBM a services company. Sun is still a hardware company and hasn't really leveraged their Java to their advantage. Unlike Oracle, Microsoft and now Google, Sun never really developed a killer instinct. -G
when I was a student in the late 1980s we had a DEC VAX and a Prime No I am approaching my 40s I am now a "decision maker" when deciding what hardware and software to purchase Our RDBMS was MIMER and used a language called MQL I doubt I would buy MIMER, a DEC VAX or a Prime Lot of good it did them!
ok, late 80s and DEC VAX (are they still build??? I never worked with VAX) I had first contact with Informix on a Nixdorf Targon running under some *nix n 1991/1992. I am decision maker and I am very happy with IDS since 1992, but I would never have bought a Targon... So I think it is worth a try. Joerg Volz ________________________________ Von: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org im Auftrag von scottishpoet Gesendet: Mi 24.09.2008 13:18 An: informix-list@iiug.org Betreff: Re: Informix on Campus Program when I was a student in the late 1980s we had a DEC VAX and a Prime No I am approaching my 40s I am now a "decision maker" when deciding what hardware and software to purchase Our RDBMS was MIMER and used a language called MQL I doubt I would buy MIMER, a DEC VAX or a Prime Lot of good it did them! _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list IT Handel und Beratung Jörg Volz Bernhard-Früh-Str. 7 77855 Achern GERMANY Tel: 07841-681651 Fax: 07841-681654 Mobil: 0170-2989757 Ust-ID: DE201383541 http://www.it-volz.de
Dec was a main supplier in the 70's and late 80's. We had a PDP1170 series in high school. I did part of my NSF grant work on a DEC PDP11 running SYS III Unix in '84, and there were Vaxen in the OSU EE dept. In '85-'86, the Comp Sci went pretty much Sun and then (I forget the large servers) (Interestingly enough because of the large servers not being Sun or Vaxen, we were "saved" by the Morris Worm. But the point was that DEC which made Apollo workstations got bought out by HP (going from memory). Sequent bought out by IBM, and SGI imploaded with pieces going to a couple of different companies including Sun. The history of Silicon valley is a cross between a soap opera and a real life game of monopoly. Informix is/was an interesting side note. IDS is a very well built machine and the comparison to Cinderella actually works when describing the post IBM acquisition. Only one small problem.... Neither Stuart nor Ambush are "prince charming". ;-) And before someone quips "gumby", I'm a tad too mercenary. ;-) -G On Sep 24, 7:04 am, Jörg Volz <Jo...@it-volz.de> wrote: > ok, late 80s and DEC VAX (are they still build??? I never worked with VAX) > > I had first contact with Informix on a Nixdorf Targon running under some *nix n 1991/1992. > I am decision maker and I am very happy with IDS since 1992, but I would never have bought a Targon... > So I think it is worth a try. > > Joerg Volz > > ________________________________ > > Von: informix-list-boun...@iiug.org im Auftrag von scottishpoet > Gesendet: Mi 24.09.2008 13:18 > An: informix-l...@iiug.org > Betreff: Re: Informix on Campus Program > > when I was a student in the late 1980s we had a DEC VAX and a Prime > > No I am approaching my 40s I am now a "decision maker" when deciding > what hardware and software to purchase > > Our RDBMS was MIMER and used a language called MQL > > I doubt I would buy MIMER, a DEC VAX or a Prime > > Lot of good it did them! > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-l...@iiug.orghttp://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > IT Handel und Beratung Jörg Volz > Bernhard-Früh-Str. 7 > 77855 Achern > GERMANY > > Tel: 07841-681651 > Fax: 07841-681654 > Mobil: 0170-2989757 > Ust-ID: DE201383541 > > http://www.it-volz.de