Re: IBM and Oracle - Let's Rrrrrrrrrrrrruuuuuuuuumbbbbbbbbbbleeeeeeee
Not a technical problem thread at all — it's an off-topic, largely jokey debate about database market share and career choices. Someone posted dice.com job-listing counts (Oracle ~47%, SQL Server ~37%, DB2 ~9%, Sybase ~6%, Informix ~1.2%) arguing DBAs should train where the jobs are; others countered that popularity isn't the same as quality (the Anheuser-Busch beer analogy) and that pay alone shouldn't dictate a career. The rest degenerates into banter and quips. No technical issue and no resolution.
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Niall Litchfield said: > prostitution and the arms trade > both pay better than my job, and have more opportunities I'm curious as to how you know this. :o) -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Bill Martinez wrote: > DA Morgan wrote: > >> In other words ... we don't know anything more than we did before we >> read this. >> >> But for those who have to pay their mortgage and feed their families >> the only metrics that matter are those that can be found at: >> www.dice.com. >> >> As of 6 May, 2007: >> ========================= >> DB2 3,419 8.9% >> Informix 452 1.2% >> Oracle 17,861 46.7% >> SQL Server 14,171 37.0% >> Sybase 2,355 6.2% >> ========================= >> >> If these aren't the numbers you're looking at you aren't paying >> attention to putting the kids through college and your retirement. > > Are these market share figures? > > Shouldn't people consider things like performance, cost of maintenance, > etc... if they want to put their kids through college? > > I notice that Anheisur-Busch has the lion's (clydesdale) share of the > beer market here in the US. > > I don't particularly like any of their beers - should I drink them > anyway just because their popular? I rather think the analogy would be with a pub/bar owner, you might not like AB beers, but you'll probably want to sell them. I don't personally like the analogy, prostitution and the arms trade both pay better than my job, and have more opportunities, but I wouldn't be regarding that as a reason to work in either of them. -- Niall Litchfield Oracle DBA http://www.orawin.info/services
Niall Litchfield wrote: > Bill Martinez wrote: >> DA Morgan wrote: >> >>> In other words ... we don't know anything more than we did before we >>> read this. >>> >>> But for those who have to pay their mortgage and feed their families >>> the only metrics that matter are those that can be found at: >>> www.dice.com. >>> >>> As of 6 May, 2007: >>> ========================= >>> DB2 3,419 8.9% >>> Informix 452 1.2% >>> Oracle 17,861 46.7% >>> SQL Server 14,171 37.0% >>> Sybase 2,355 6.2% >>> ========================= >>> >>> If these aren't the numbers you're looking at you aren't paying >>> attention to putting the kids through college and your retirement. >> Are these market share figures? >> >> Shouldn't people consider things like performance, cost of maintenance, >> etc... if they want to put their kids through college? >> >> I notice that Anheisur-Busch has the lion's (clydesdale) share of the >> beer market here in the US. >> >> I don't particularly like any of their beers - should I drink them >> anyway just because their popular? > > I rather think the analogy would be with a pub/bar owner, you might not > like AB beers, but you'll probably want to sell them. > > I don't personally like the analogy, prostitution and the arms trade > both pay better than my job, and have more opportunities, but I wouldn't > be regarding that as a reason to work in either of them. I agree. But given you are already a carpenter ... and there are jobs available ... seems to me you would want to train for those jobs that offer the most opportunity. I know very few carpenters who are looking for work manufacturing birdhouses. In our business that means Oracle and SQL Server. It isn't that there is anything wrong with building bird houses. Just that they account for less than 20% of available work. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
Aren't you supposed to be on your boat or something? Your syntax is odd, it appears as though you are saying that Oracle and SQL Server are good for building bird houses. I'm glad that they are useful for something. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of DA Morgan Sent: Tuesday, May 08, 2007 2:11 PM I agree. But given you are already a carpenter ... and there are jobs available ... seems to me you would want to train for those jobs that offer the most opportunity. I know very few carpenters who are looking for work manufacturing birdhouses. In our business that means Oracle and SQL Server. It isn't that there is anything wrong with building bird houses. Just that they account for less than 20% of available work. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
"Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message news:O9WdnVuLN5L0L93bnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@pipex.net... > > I don't personally like the analogy, prostitution ... (pays) better than > my job ... You're not in Portsmouth, then...?
Captain Pedantic said: > "Niall Litchfield" <niall.litchfield@dial.pipex.com> wrote in message > news:O9WdnVuLN5L0L93bnZ2dnUVZ8qugnZ2d@pipex.net... >> >> I don't personally like the analogy, prostitution ... (pays) better than >> my job ... > > You're not in Portsmouth, then...? He's an Oracle DBA. Even in Portsmouth... :o) -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Niall Litchfield said: >> prostitution and the arms trade >> both pay better than my job, and have more opportunities > > I'm curious as to how you know this. :o) > He asked your momma
Mark Townsend said: > Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >> Niall Litchfield said: >>> prostitution and the arms trade >>> both pay better than my job, and have more opportunities >> >> I'm curious as to how you know this. :o) >> > He asked your momma OK, OK, I'll give you that one. :o) -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.