sybase looks to be in even worse shape than informix
Not a technical problem at all: a poster claims Sybase's newsgroup activity shows it is faring worse than Informix. The thread is pure banter about Usenet post counts, who posts most in comp.databases.informix, and whether traffic says anything about a product's market health. Side discussion covers Sybase's decline after moving from its core database business, Oracle's migration push, and Serge Rielau noting DB2 V7.1 added Sybase-friendly features (identity columns, SQL PL, global temp tables, a migration toolkit). No technical issue, so no resolution recorded.
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Just look at the number of posts in recent months. http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.sybase/about
Not sure they are in worse shape - they have less posts, but none from the people below (posts this month to date). So presumably overall quality is a little higher .... 46 Ian Michael Gumby 24 obno...@serendipita.com 21 ind...@indeep.com 20 Fernando Nunes 11 damor...@psoug.org 6 david@smooth1.co.uk 6 guess...@where.com 5 splint...@ymail.com 5 markbtowns...@sbcglobal.net 5 srie...@ca.ibm.com I like IBM wrote: > Just look at the number of posts in recent months. > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.sybase/about
markbtownsend@sbcglobal.net wrote: > Not sure they are in worse shape - they have less posts, but none from > the people below (posts this month to date). So presumably overall > quality is a little higher .... > > 46 Ian Michael Gumby > 24 obno...@serendipita.com > 21 ind...@indeep.com > 20 Fernando Nunes > I think you're being a bit unfair to Fernando, he does post useful stuff some of the time. -- Cheers, Obnoxio the Clown http://obotheclown.blogspot.com
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > markbtownsend@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Not sure they are in worse shape - they have less posts, but none from >> the people below (posts this month to date). So presumably overall >> quality is a little higher .... >> >> 46 Ian Michael Gumby >> 24 obno...@serendipita.com >> 21 ind...@indeep.com >> 20 Fernando Nunes >> > > I think you're being a bit unfair to Fernando, he does post useful stuff > some of the time. > Quite telling about the Informix market in general. The most traffic is coming from people trying to talk about improving Informix marketing and getting Informix out there combined with people telling them to shut up about Informix marketing. c.d.i... As dysfunctional as ever. *<8o)
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > markbtownsend@sbcglobal.net wrote: >> Not sure they are in worse shape - they have less posts, but none from >> the people below (posts this month to date). So presumably overall >> quality is a little higher .... >> >> 46 Ian Michael Gumby >> 24 obno...@serendipita.com >> 21 ind...@indeep.com >> 20 Fernando Nunes >> > > I think you're being a bit unfair to Fernando, he does post useful stuff > some of the time. > Thanks... you almost made me cry ;) Some of your posts are not bad also... I wouldn't mind to outsource some of our posters to help a fellow database product in danger! But really... are we measuring anything based on Usenet? eheheheh... I think we could use usenet for social/medical studying, not for maketing :) -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently...
On Sep 10, 9:51 am, I like IBM <guess...@where.com> wrote: > Just look at the number of posts in recent months. > > http://groups.google.com/group/comp.databases.sybase/about Now that's funny. Sybase had been going downhill since they moved away from their core database business. Also there were problems in their adaptive server technology. Want to kill performance across the entire server? Implement a poorly written embedded C app. I wonder why IBM never tried to implement a Sybase take out strategy. Oracle did and it was pretty successful to a point. There are still a couple of hard core sybase shops hanging around. Most however have since moved on and off the platform except for legacy systems. I just spoke with a friend at a former client and a system I wrote (C++ and Sybase) just was taken off line. The application has been running uninterrupted since '98. Seems they lost the source code...
Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > I wonder why IBM never tried to implement a Sybase take out strategy. > Oracle did and it was pretty successful to a point. There are still a > couple of hard core sybase shops hanging around. That was before your time at IBM. DB2 V7.1 was all about Sybase: IDENTITY columns, SQL PL procedures, inline SQL PL, Global Temp Tables, Sybase migration toolkit. Sitting in class right now teaching several Wallstreet customers DB2 Vnext. So, can't complain about lack of success to get them over and stick with us. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab