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I see that the landing page for www.informix.com has changed. It leads to an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available under "What We Officer". Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to www.informix.com twice in the past few days to get some general product information and have had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages.

Captain Pedantic wrote: > I see that the landing page for www.informix.com has changed. It leads to > an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available > under "What We Officer". > > Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called > wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! > > Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to www.informix.com > twice in the past few days to get some general product information and have > had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. It certainly raises questions: the prominent "what we offer" section (spelling mistake now corrected it seems) does look like an DB2 imposter as everything else on the page pertains to IDS. The View All Data servers link does display various Informix products but suggests that IDS is at best their 6th most important product as it fails to make the main page. It makes me wonder if this is just a cut and paste job from another page. Ben.

What's even more amazing is that the Developer Edition has a time bomb! IBM just can't seem to get it right. If it's a DEVELOPER EDITION, doesn't that imply that it's FREE of a timebomb? ============ onstat =================================== Your evaluation license will expire on 2008-02-11 00:00:00 IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.10.UC1ET -- On-Line -- Up 13 days 15:34:01 -- 27796 Kbytes Userthreads address flags sessid user tty wait tout locks nreads nwrites 444db018 ---P--D 1 root - 0 0 0 390 3804 444db5e0 ---P--F 0 root - 0 0 0 0 8221 444dbba8 ---P--- 5 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444dc170 ---P--B 6 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444dc738 Y--P--D 18 root - 44082e18 0 0 0 0 444dcd00 ---P--- 16 informix - 0 0 2 165 4893 444dd2c8 ---P--D 9 root - 0 0 0 0 0 444dd890 ---P--- 14 informix - 0 0 1 169 2 444dde58 ---P--- 15 informix - 0 0 2 124 4805 9 active, 128 total, 18 maximum concurrent Profile dskreads pagreads bufreads %cached dskwrits pagwrits bufwrits %cached 1285 1301 650706 99.80 12057 21750 92837 87.01 isamtot open start read write rewrite delete commit rollbk 612518 18794 34434 280586 26444 803 1302 11143 0 gp_read gp_write gp_rewrt gp_del gp_alloc gp_free gp_curs 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 ovlock ovuserthread ovbuff usercpu syscpu numckpts flushes 0 0 0 36.84 96.14 348 348 bufwaits lokwaits lockreqs deadlks dltouts ckpwaits compress seqscans 214 0 182312 0 0 0 4337 16904 ixda-RA idx-RA da-RA RA-pgsused lchwaits 81 0 18 99 3 -ID- Ben Thompson wrote: > Captain Pedantic wrote: >> I see that the landing page for www.informix.com has changed. It >> leads to an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data >> servers available under "What We Officer". >> >> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called >> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! >> >> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to >> www.informix.com twice in the past few days to get some general >> product information and have had to go round the houses to get to the >> IDS pages. > > It certainly raises questions: the prominent "what we offer" section > (spelling mistake now corrected it seems) does look like an DB2 imposter > as everything else on the page pertains to IDS. The View All Data > servers link does display various Informix products but suggests that > IDS is at best their 6th most important product as it fails to make the > main page. It makes me wonder if this is just a cut and paste job from > another page. > > Ben.

On Nov 27, 3:42 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: > What's even more amazing is that the Developer Edition has a time bomb! > > IBM just can't seem to get it right. If it's a DEVELOPER EDITION, doesn't that > imply that it's FREE of a timebomb? > > ============ onstat =================================== > > Your evaluation license will expire on 2008-02-11 00:00:00 > > IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.10.UC1ET -- On-Line -- Up 13 days 15:34:01 -- 27796 Kbytes> > Userthreads > address flags sessid user tty wait tout locks nreads nwrites > 444db018 ---P--D 1 root - 0 0 0 390 3804 > 444db5e0 ---P--F 0 root - 0 0 0 0 8221 > 444dbba8 ---P--- 5 root - 0 0 0 0 0 > 444dc170 ---P--B 6 root - 0 0 0 0 0 > 444dc738 Y--P--D 18 root - 44082e18 0 0 0 0 > 444dcd00 ---P--- 16 informix - 0 0 2 165 4893 > 444dd2c8 ---P--D 9 root - 0 0 0 0 0 > 444dd890 ---P--- 14 informix - 0 0 1 169 2 > 444dde58 ---P--- 15 informix - 0 0 2 124 4805 > 9 active, 128 total, 18 maximum concurrent > > Profile > dskreads pagreads bufreads %cached dskwrits pagwrits bufwrits %cached > 1285 1301 650706 99.80 12057 21750 92837 87.01 > > isamtot open start read write rewrite delete commit rollbk > 612518 18794 34434 280586 26444 803 1302 11143 0 > > gp_read gp_write gp_rewrt gp_del gp_alloc gp_free gp_curs > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 > > ovlock ovuserthread ovbuff usercpu syscpu numckpts flushes > 0 0 0 36.84 96.14 348 348 > > bufwaits lokwaits lockreqs deadlks dltouts ckpwaits compress seqscans > 214 0 182312 0 0 0 4337 16904 > > ixda-RA idx-RA da-RA RA-pgsused lchwaits > 81 0 18 99 3 > > -ID- > > Ben Thompson wrote: > > Captain Pedantic wrote: > >> I see that the landing page forwww.informix.comhas changed. It > >> leads to an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data > >> servers available under "What We Officer". > > >> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called > >> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! > > >> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to > >>www.informix.comtwice in the past few days to get some general > >> product information and have had to go round the houses to get to the > >> IDS pages. > > > It certainly raises questions: the prominent "what we offer" section > > (spelling mistake now corrected it seems) does look like an DB2 imposter > > as everything else on the page pertains to IDS. The View All Data > > servers link does display various Informix products but suggests that > > IDS is at best their 6th most important product as it fails to make the > > main page. It makes me wonder if this is just a cut and paste job from > > another page. > > > Ben. Is this a developer release, I thought all developer versions were UC1D, TC1D or FC1D, i.e. D for Developer? with UC1ET is the 'T' for Time Trial?

Nog wrote: > On Nov 27, 3:42 pm, InDeep <ind...@indeep.com> wrote: >> What's even more amazing is that the Developer Edition has a time bomb! >> >> IBM just can't seem to get it right. If it's a DEVELOPER EDITION, doesn't that >> imply that it's FREE of a timebomb? >> >> ============ onstat =================================== >> >> Your evaluation license will expire on 2008-02-11 00:00:00 >> >> IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 11.10.UC1ET -- On-Line -- Up 13 days 15:34:01 -- 27796 Kbytes>> >> Userthreads >> address flags sessid user tty wait tout locks nreads nwrites >> 444db018 ---P--D 1 root - 0 0 0 390 3804 >> 444db5e0 ---P--F 0 root - 0 0 0 0 8221 >> 444dbba8 ---P--- 5 root - 0 0 0 0 0 >> 444dc170 ---P--B 6 root - 0 0 0 0 0 >> 444dc738 Y--P--D 18 root - 44082e18 0 0 0 0 >> 444dcd00 ---P--- 16 informix - 0 0 2 165 4893 >> 444dd2c8 ---P--D 9 root - 0 0 0 0 0 >> 444dd890 ---P--- 14 informix - 0 0 1 169 2 >> 444dde58 ---P--- 15 informix - 0 0 2 124 4805 >> 9 active, 128 total, 18 maximum concurrent >> >> Profile >> dskreads pagreads bufreads %cached dskwrits pagwrits bufwrits %cached >> 1285 1301 650706 99.80 12057 21750 92837 87.01 >> >> isamtot open start read write rewrite delete commit rollbk >> 612518 18794 34434 280586 26444 803 1302 11143 0 >> >> gp_read gp_write gp_rewrt gp_del gp_alloc gp_free gp_curs >> 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 >> >> ovlock ovuserthread ovbuff usercpu syscpu numckpts flushes >> 0 0 0 36.84 96.14 348 348 >> >> bufwaits lokwaits lockreqs deadlks dltouts ckpwaits compress seqscans >> 214 0 182312 0 0 0 4337 16904 >> >> ixda-RA idx-RA da-RA RA-pgsused lchwaits >> 81 0 18 99 3 >> >> -ID- >> >> Ben Thompson wrote: >>> Captain Pedantic wrote: >>>> I see that the landing page forwww.informix.comhas changed. It >>>> leads to an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data >>>> servers available under "What We Officer". >>>> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called >>>> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! >>>> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to >>>> www.informix.comtwice in the past few days to get some general >>>> product information and have had to go round the houses to get to the >>>> IDS pages. >>> It certainly raises questions: the prominent "what we offer" section >>> (spelling mistake now corrected it seems) does look like an DB2 imposter >>> as everything else on the page pertains to IDS. The View All Data >>> servers link does display various Informix products but suggests that >>> IDS is at best their 6th most important product as it fails to make the >>> main page. It makes me wonder if this is just a cut and paste job from >>> another page. >>> Ben. > > Is this a developer release, I thought all developer versions were > UC1D, TC1D or FC1D, i.e. D for Developer? > > with UC1ET is the 'T' for Time Trial? > The links to the download are vague at best. I thought I downloaded the developer version. FWIW Everything about the IBM website is complicated and vague, lots and lots of shit pages to get through. Rating it from a user-interface perspective it illicit low confidence in any of the links that they might actually take you to another page that is actually useful. Unless the links are specific and direct, it's anybody's guess where to go on ibm.com for anything.

Captain Pedantic wrote: > I see that the landing page for www.informix.com has changed. It leads to > an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available > under "What We Officer". > > Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called > wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! > > Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to www.informix.com > twice in the past few days to get some general product information and have > had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. -- Jonathan Leffler #include <disclaimer.h> Email: jleffler@earthlink.net, jleffler@us.ibm.com Guardian of DBD::Informix v2007.0914 -- http://dbi.perl.org/ publictimestamp.org/ptb/PTB-1892 tiger 2007-11-28 00:00:07 918863F9FA9A832591FFCCE458C9769131BDE24862D0318F

Jonathan Leffler wrote: > Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks > clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to > http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a > regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. The page has indeed been updated. Ben.

"Jonathan Leffler" <jleffler@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:13kpkutqh02licf@corp.supernews.com... > Captain Pedantic wrote: > >> I see that the landing page for www.informix.com has changed. It leads >> to >> an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available >> under "What We Officer". >> >> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called >> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! >> >> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been to www.informix.com >> twice in the past few days to get some general product information and >> have >> had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. > > Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks > clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to > http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a > regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. Yes, it's been fixed now. It was like that for at least a week though.

On 28 Nov, 13:01, "Captain Pedantic" <theharlequi...@hotmail.com> wrote: > "Jonathan Leffler" <jleff...@earthlink.net> wrote in message > > news:13kpkutqh02licf@corp.supernews.com... > > > > > Captain Pedantic wrote: > > >> I see that the landing page forwww.informix.comhas changed. It leads > >> to > >> an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available > >> under "What We Officer". > > >> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called > >> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! > > >> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been towww.informix.com > >> twice in the past few days to get some general product information and > >> have > >> had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. > > > Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks > > clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to > >http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a > > regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. > > Yes, it's been fixed now. It was like that for at least a week though. Yep ... fixed now ... http://www.informix.com now takes you to something even less specific to informix : http://www.ibm.com/us/

"TBP" <TheBigPotatoe@nothere.co.uk> wrote in message news:31f1921e-5135-4da9-871b-ba291471fc37@e23g2000prf.googlegroups.com... > Yep ... fixed now ... > > http://www.informix.com > > now takes you to something even less specific to informix : > > http://www.ibm.com/us/ Well, the UK site for me, but same point. That's bobbins, isn't it?

TBP wrote: > On 28 Nov, 13:01, "Captain Pedantic" <theharlequi...@hotmail.com> > wrote: >> "Jonathan Leffler" <jleff...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >> >> news:13kpkutqh02licf@corp.supernews.com... >> >> >> >>> Captain Pedantic wrote: >>>> I see that the landing page forwww.informix.comhas changed. It leads >>>> to >>>> an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers available >>>> under "What We Officer". >>>> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called >>>> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! >>>> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been towww.informix.com >>>> twice in the past few days to get some general product information and >>>> have >>>> had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. >>> Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks >>> clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to >>> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a >>> regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. >> Yes, it's been fixed now. It was like that for at least a week though. > > Yep ... fixed now ... > > http://www.informix.com > > now takes you to something even less specific to informix : > > http://www.ibm.com/us/ Hee hee! One can only imagine the flurry of activity as somebody woke up the webmaster from their deep sleep, passed them the wrong information, and then moved on to talk about the next round of layoffs coming at IBM. I'm even willing to bet the website is run from India, adding even more to the equation. Might even be run by the same group that puts timebombs on developer editions.

InDeep wrote: > > > TBP wrote: >> On 28 Nov, 13:01, "Captain Pedantic" <theharlequi...@hotmail.com> >> wrote: >>> "Jonathan Leffler" <jleff...@earthlink.net> wrote in message >>> >>> news:13kpkutqh02licf@corp.supernews.com... >>> >>> >>> >>>> Captain Pedantic wrote: >>>>> I see that the landing page forwww.informix.comhas changed. It leads >>>>> to >>>>> an "Informix Product Family" page which lists the data servers >>>>> available >>>>> under "What We Officer". >>>>> Interestingly, although this has the U2 products and something called >>>>> wintergate, it doesn't have IDS! >>>>> Is it just me that finds this a bit odd? I've been towww.informix.com >>>>> twice in the past few days to get some general product information and >>>>> have >>>>> had to go round the houses to get to the IDS pages. >>>> Well, whatever the problem was, it now (2007-11-27 18:34 -08:00) looks >>>> clean to me. The Informix web site now redirects you to >>>> http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix, and that looks to be a >>>> regular Informix home page (no U2, no Wintergate) with 'What We Offer'. >>> Yes, it's been fixed now. It was like that for at least a week though. >> >> Yep ... fixed now ... >> >> http://www.informix.com >> >> now takes you to something even less specific to informix : >> >> http://www.ibm.com/us/ > > Hee hee! > > One can only imagine the flurry of activity as somebody woke up the > webmaster > from their deep sleep, passed them the wrong information, and then moved on > to talk about the next round of layoffs coming at IBM. I'm even willing > to bet > the website is run from India, adding even more to the equation. Might > even be > run by the same group that puts timebombs on developer editions. Perhaps now someone will recall the phrase I used to describe what IBM is doing with Informix. Killing it with papercuts. The chance that the DB2 site is being treated with the same lack of respect is precisely zero. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

"InDeep" <indeep@indeep.com> wrote in message news:PEA3j.10$R63.4@fe18.usenetserver.com... >> Yep ... fixed now ... >> >> http://www.informix.com >> >> now takes you to something even less specific to informix : >> >> http://www.ibm.com/us/ > > Hee hee! > > One can only imagine the flurry of activity as somebody woke up the > webmaster > from their deep sleep, passed them the wrong information, and then moved > on > to talk about the next round of layoffs coming at IBM. I'm even willing > to bet > the website is run from India, adding even more to the equation. Might > even be > run by the same group that puts timebombs on developer editions. The IBM Worldwide Business Exec for Informix has apparently picked this up and said it should be fixed by Monday.