IDS on Windows Sanity Check
Not a bug report but an opinion poll: a consultant asked whether moving a client's Informix (IDS) installation from HP-UX to Windows is sensible, since his own Windows knowledge was dated. Responses split: Art Kagel strongly advised against it (Windows is a poor server OS, and unlike SQL Server, Informix gets no MS internal tuning), while Andreas Legner and Paul Watson noted many large Windows installs run fine, with upgrades being the main pain, and suggested installing Cygwin. The driver turned out to be a new CEO's preference and cost; Kagel countered that Linux would be cheaper, as Informix licensing is per socket/core. No firm decision is recorded.
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Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that question is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the environment; mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for stories from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from HPUX to Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration nightmares, etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is dated. Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not IDS) on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the classroom. "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a laugh from the crowds. Thanks - Mark Scranton The Mark Scranton Group All Informix ... all the time. mark@markscranton.com
My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't. Art Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant ASK Database Management www.askdbmgt.com Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com> wrote: > Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that > question > is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the environment; > mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for > stories > from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from HPUX to > Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration nightmares, > etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is > dated. > > Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not > IDS) > on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the > classroom. > > "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a laugh > from the crowds. > > Thanks - > Mark Scranton > The Mark Scranton Group > All Informix ... all the time. > mark@markscranton.com > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534
A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) There are many, and large, installations on Windows running successfully.=20 With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not you=20 still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly home=20 land. Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would be=20 the reasons for this particular move to Windows? Another opinion. Andreas From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 Art=20 Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 ASK Database Management=20 www.askdbmgt.com=20 Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions=20 and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am = associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.=20 On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com>=20 wrote:=20 > Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 > question=20 > is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the environment;=20 > mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for=20 > stories=20 > from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from HPUX=20 to=20 > Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 nightmares,=20 > etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is=20 > dated.=20 >=20 > Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not = > IDS)=20 > on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the=20 > classroom.=20 >=20 > "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a=20 laugh=20 > from the crowds.=20 >=20 > Thanks -=20 > Mark Scranton=20 > The Mark Scranton Group=20 > All Informix ... all the time.=20 > mark@markscranton.com=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 ***************************************************************************= ****=20 > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 >=20 >=20 --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 ***************************************************************************= ****=20 Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20
We look after a number of Windows system and in general have no more issues than Unix. Personally I find upgrades a real pain but .... If possible, I would always have Cygwin installed Cheers Paul Paul Watson Oninit www.oninit.com +1 913 387 7529 On unit® is a Registered Trademark of Oninit LLC On Mar 18, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Andreas Legner <andreas.legner@de.ibm.com> wrote: > A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) > > There are many, and large, installations on Windows running successfully.=20 > With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. > > You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not you=20 > still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly home=20 > land. > > Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 > accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would be=20 > the reasons for this particular move to Windows? > > Another opinion. > > Andreas > > From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> > To: ids@iiug.org > Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 > Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 > > Art=20 > > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 > ASK Database Management=20 > www.askdbmgt.com=20 > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions=20 > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am = > > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.=20 > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com>=20 > wrote:=20 > >> Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 >> question=20 >> is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the environment;=20 >> mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for=20 >> stories=20 >> from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from HPUX=20 > to=20 >> Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 > nightmares,=20 >> etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is=20 >> dated.=20 >> =20 >> Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not = > >> IDS)=20 >> on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the=20 >> classroom.=20 >> =20 >> "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a=20 > laugh=20 >> from the crowds.=20 >> =20 >> Thanks -=20 >> Mark Scranton=20 >> The Mark Scranton Group=20 >> All Informix ... all the time.=20 >> mark@markscranton.com=20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 >> =20 > ***************************************************************************= > ****=20 > >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 >> =20 >> =20 > > --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 > > ***************************************************************************= > ****=20 > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Andreas: I am, admittedly, a highly opinionated individual. I have my preferences. That doesn't mean I don't have a solid base for those opinions and preferences. For example: 1. Informix is the BEST RDBMS and ORDBMS and Hybrid Relational/NoSQL database engine on the planet. 2. Windows is a terrible operating system for serious servers. 3. Unlike SQL Server, Informix is not written by internal MS experts that have access to the OS guys to tweak the OS to make SQL Server run better. Therefore Informix is not the best choice of databases on Windows. If you choose Windows for your OS you should not be running Informix, even given that Informix runs better on Windows than DB2 or Oracle do. 4. Combine 1, 2, & 3 and you get the unavoidable conclusion that if you want the best RDBMS, etc., you need to be running a different OS than Windows. Pure logic. B^) Art Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant ASK Database Management www.askdbmgt.com Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Andreas Legner <andreas.legner@de.ibm.com> wrote: > A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) > > There are many, and large, installations on Windows running > successfully.=20 > With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. > > You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not you=20 > still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly home=20 > land. > > Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 > accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would be=20 > the reasons for this particular move to Windows? > > Another opinion. > > Andreas > > From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> > To: ids@iiug.org > Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 > Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 > > Art=20 > > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 > ASK Database Management=20 > www.askdbmgt.com=20 > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions=20 > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am > = > > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.=20 > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com>=20 > wrote:=20 > > > Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 > > question=20 > > is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the > environment;=20 > > mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for=20 > > stories=20 > > from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from > HPUX=20 > to=20 > > Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 > nightmares,=20 > > etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is=20 > > dated.=20 > >=20 > > Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not > = > > > IDS)=20 > > on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the=20 > > classroom.=20 > >=20 > > "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a=20 > laugh=20 > > from the crowds.=20 > >=20 > > Thanks -=20 > > Mark Scranton=20 > > The Mark Scranton Group=20 > > All Informix ... all the time.=20 > > mark@markscranton.com=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > ***************************************************************************= > ****=20 > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > >=20 > >=20 > > --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 > > > ***************************************************************************= > ****=20 > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --047d7bdca2f8b87d56052e51fc53
Well Microsoft have ported MS SQL Server to Linux now so perhaps even they now think that Windows isn't the best operating system for a DB Server :-) Neil O'Meara On 18/03/2016 12:23, Paul Watson wrote: > We look after a number of Windows system and in general have no more issues > than Unix. Personally I find upgrades a real pain but .... > > If possible, I would always have Cygwin installed > > Cheers > Paul > > Paul Watson > Oninit www.oninit.com > +1 913 387 7529 > > On unit® is a Registered Trademark of Oninit LLC > > On Mar 18, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Andreas Legner <andreas.legner@de.ibm.com> wrote: > >> A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) >> >> There are many, and large, installations on Windows running successfully.=20 >> With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. >> >> You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not you=20 >> still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly home=20 >> land. >> >> Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 >> accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would be=20 >> the reasons for this particular move to Windows? >> >> Another opinion. >> >> Andreas >> >> From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> >> To: ids@iiug.org >> Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 >> Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] >> Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org >> >> My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 >> >> Art=20 >> >> Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 >> ASK Database Management=20 >> www.askdbmgt.com=20 >> >> Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 >> >> Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions=20 >> and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am = >> >> associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 >> those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 >> entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves.=20 >> >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com>=20 >> wrote:=20 >> >>> Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 >>> question=20 >>> is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the environment;=20 >>> mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking for=20 >>> stories=20 >>> from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from HPUX=20 >> to=20 >>> Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 >> nightmares,=20 >>> etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge is=20 >>> dated.=20 >>> =20 >>> Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS (not = >>> IDS)=20 >>> on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and the=20 >>> classroom.=20 >>> =20 >>> "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got a=20 >> laugh=20 >>> from the crowds.=20 >>> =20 >>> Thanks -=20 >>> Mark Scranton=20 >>> The Mark Scranton Group=20 >>> All Informix ... all the time.=20 >>> mark@markscranton.com=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >> ***************************************************************************= >> ****=20 >> >>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 >>> =20 >>> =20 >> --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 >> >> ***************************************************************************= >> ****=20 >> >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 >> >> >> > ******************************************************************************* >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > -- Regards Neil O'Meara Region Director Four J's Development Tools Northern Europe, Middle East, Southern Africa E-mail: neilom@4js.com Direct Line: +44 (0)370 111 5149 Cell: +44 (0)7968 160 497
I agree Andreas ... knowing the reason for moving is key here. But so far it's just a "new CEO in the mix that prefers Windows" or simply cost. Don't know just yet. Thanks for the response. Mark
In the future I may quote this, or part of it :) On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 1:27 PM, Art Kagel <art.kagel@gmail.com> wrote: > Andreas: > > I am, admittedly, a highly opinionated individual. I have my preferences. > That doesn't mean I don't have a solid base for those opinions and > preferences. For example: > > 1. Informix is the BEST RDBMS and ORDBMS and Hybrid Relational/NoSQL > > database engine on the planet. > > 2. Windows is a terrible operating system for serious servers. > > 3. Unlike SQL Server, Informix is not written by internal MS experts > > that have access to the OS guys to tweak the OS to make SQL Server run > > better. Therefore Informix is not the best choice of databases on Windows. > > If you choose Windows for your OS you should not be running Informix, even > > given that Informix runs better on Windows than DB2 or Oracle do. > > 4. Combine 1, 2, & 3 and you get the unavoidable conclusion that if you > > want the best RDBMS, etc., you need to be running a different OS than > > Windows. > > Pure logic. B^) > > Art > > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant > ASK Database Management > www.askdbmgt.com > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. > > On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 5:40 AM, Andreas Legner <andreas.legner@de.ibm.com > > > wrote: > > > A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) > > > > There are many, and large, installations on Windows running > > successfully.=20 > > With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. > > > > You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not > you=20 > > still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly > home=20 > > land. > > > > Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 > > accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would > be=20 > > the reasons for this particular move to Windows? > > > > Another opinion. > > > > Andreas > > > > From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> > > To: ids@iiug.org > > Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 > > Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] > > Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > > > > My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 > > > > Art=20 > > > > Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 > > ASK Database Management=20 > > www.askdbmgt.com=20 > > > > Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 > > > > Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own > opinions=20 > > and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I > am > > = > > > > associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 > > those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 > > entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities > themselves.=20 > > > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com > >=20 > > wrote:=20 > > > > > Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 > > > question=20 > > > is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the > > environment;=20 > > > mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking > for=20 > > > stories=20 > > > from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from > > HPUX=20 > > to=20 > > > Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 > > nightmares,=20 > > > etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge > is=20 > > > dated.=20 > > >=20 > > > Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS > (not > > = > > > > > IDS)=20 > > > on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and > the=20 > > > classroom.=20 > > >=20 > > > "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got > a=20 > > laugh=20 > > > from the crowds.=20 > > >=20 > > > Thanks -=20 > > > Mark Scranton=20 > > > The Mark Scranton Group=20 > > > All Informix ... all the time.=20 > > > mark@markscranton.com=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > > ***************************************************************************= > > ****=20 > > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > > >=20 > > >=20 > > > > --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 > > > > > > > ***************************************************************************= > > ****=20 > > > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > > > > > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > --047d7bdca2f8b87d56052e51fc53 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > -- Fernando Nunes Portugal http://informix-technology.blogspot.com My email works... but I don't check it frequently... --001a11c3eeb606ee94052e550bd0
They run their cloud farm on Linux as well. ;-) Art Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant ASK Database Management www.askdbmgt.com Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:36 AM, Neil O'Meara <neilom@4js-emea.com> wrote: > Well Microsoft have ported MS SQL Server to Linux now so perhaps even > they now think that Windows isn't the best operating system for a DB > Server :-) > > Neil O'Meara > > On 18/03/2016 12:23, Paul Watson wrote: > > We look after a number of Windows system and in general have no more > issues > > than Unix. Personally I find upgrades a real pain but .... > > > > If possible, I would always have Cygwin installed > > > > Cheers > > Paul > > > > Paul Watson > > Oninit www.oninit.com > > +1 913 387 7529 > > > > On unit® is a Registered Trademark of Oninit LLC > > > > On Mar 18, 2016, at 4:40 AM, Andreas Legner <andreas.legner@de.ibm.com> > wrote: > > > >> A rather opinionated opinion, I'd assume ;-) > >> > >> There are many, and large, installations on Windows running > successfully.=20 > >> With their own set of potential problems, but can be handled. > >> > >> You might be right where someone has the platform choice, where not > you=20 > >> still could enjoy your Informix, though or course it's not exactly > home=20 > >> land. > >> > >> Then "on Windows" can mean a range of things, from simply running and=20 > >> accepting data, to deep AD integration and more. So again, what would > be=20 > >> the reasons for this particular move to Windows? > >> > >> Another opinion. > >> > >> Andreas > >> > >> From: "Art Kagel" <art.kagel@gmail.com> > >> To: ids@iiug.org > >> Date: 18.03.2016 01:02 > >> Subject: Re: IDS on Windows Sanity Check [36775] > >> Sent by: ids-bounces@iiug.org > >> > >> My opinion on running IDS under Windows? Don't.=20 > >> > >> Art=20 > >> > >> Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant=20 > >> ASK Database Management=20 > >> www.askdbmgt.com=20 > >> > >> Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/=20 > >> > >> Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own > opinions=20 > >> and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I > am > = > >> > >> associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do=20 > >> those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any=20 > >> entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities > themselves.=20 > >> > >> On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 2:52 PM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com > >=20 > >> wrote:=20 > >> > >>> Need some "current opinions" of running IDS on Windows. I know that=20 > >>> question=20 > >>> is way too general, as it depends on many variables in the > environment;=20 > >>> mem/disk/users/apps/horses/planet alignment, etc. So just looking > for=20 > >>> stories=20 > >>> from the road as I have a client serioulsy considering moving from > HPUX=20 > >> to=20 > >>> Windows. I already have my own opinion (scaling, administration=20 > >> nightmares,=20 > >>> etc.) but have stayed away from Windows on purpose so my knowledge > is=20 > >>> dated.=20 > >>> =20 > >>> Some of you may remember in the late 90's when we tried to sell XPS > (not = > >>> IDS)=20 > >>> on Windows and the hilarity of that attempt both in the field and > the=20 > >>> classroom.=20 > >>> =20 > >>> "How do you make IDS run faster on Windows? Use Unix." - always got > a=20 > >> laugh=20 > >>> from the crowds.=20 > >>> =20 > >>> Thanks -=20 > >>> Mark Scranton=20 > >>> The Mark Scranton Group=20 > >>> All Informix ... all the time.=20 > >>> mark@markscranton.com=20 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> > > ***************************************************************************= > >> ****=20 > >> > >>> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > >>> =20 > >>> =20 > >> --047d7bdca2f8a26c3e052e44f534=20 > >> > >> > > ***************************************************************************= > >> ****=20 > >> > >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.=20 > >> > >> > >> > > > > ******************************************************************************* > >> Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > > > ******************************************************************************* > > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > > -- > Regards > > Neil O'Meara > Region Director > Four J's Development Tools > Northern Europe, Middle East, Southern Africa > E-mail: neilom@4js.com > Direct Line: +44 (0)370 111 5149 > Cell: +44 (0)7968 160 497 > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --001a113ee4fcefce57052e568bed
For cost then run under Linux. No OS licenses, support available cheaper than for Windows, etc. Database license is the same since it's based on # sockets or #cores. Art Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant ASK Database Management www.askdbmgt.com Blog: http://informix-myview.blogspot.com/ Disclaimer: Please keep in mind that my own opinions are my own opinions and do not reflect on the IIUG, nor any other organization with which I am associated either explicitly, implicitly, or by inference. Neither do those opinions reflect those of other individuals affiliated with any entity with which I am affiliated nor those of the entities themselves. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 11:39 AM, MARK SCRANTON <mark@markscranton.com> wrote: > I agree Andreas ... knowing the reason for moving is key here. But so far > it's > just a "new CEO in the mix that prefers Windows" or simply cost. Don't know > just yet. Thanks for the response. > > Mark > > > > ******************************************************************************* > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > --047d7bd76bea3543c1052e5692ec