Re: New Era, VB, Delphi, PB

Mark D. Stock wrote: > > Look, if you don't want to use NewEra just yet and you want to stick to > good old 4GL, then just come right out and say it Tim. :-) > > Your points are all basically valid, but a little cynical. With every new > development tool that comes out you have the catch-22 situation, where > clients are reluctant to buy because there are no software shops to > support them, and software shops are reluctant to train people up when > there are no active projects. > > In South Africa we pretty much provide all the skills for outsourced > projects. Some companies are developing in-house, but the number of NewEra > projects is increasing monthly. > > I think you are wrong about people using different suppliers. People > generally select a company to supply their database, then they use the > tools offered by that company. People select a hardware platform, then > they get all their hardware requirements from that supplier. > > If you look at all the hype from database vendors about ANSI standards. > The original sales pitch was that if you could write SQL for one > database then you could write it for all. If you could connect to one > database then you could connect to them all. This has only recently > become a reality with connectivity such as ODBC. You still need SQL > manuals for each database you need to connect to. > > So your ideal of using multiple vendors will become a reality in time, I > am sure. But at this point if Informix say they have a new wonder-tool, > then Informix clients will upgrade. If Oracle say they have a new engine, > then Oracle clients will upgrade (in a flash :-). > > It may be just my warped sense of the universe, but to me the whole > industry has come full circle over the last ten years. With a return now > to host-centric systems with dumb or thin clients, running 3GL's like > Java. >8-) > > <Soapbox is removed by passer-by with a promise to break both legs> > > Cheers, > -- > > Mark. Mark, Tim has a valid point. I've been programming in Newera for 6 months now and am still hitting new bugs. If Informix truly intended on keeping the product around for the long haul, wouldn't they attempt to debug their code???? And the price of Newera is outrageous!!! You'd think Informix would try to keep in line with the rest of the packages out there. Considering the bugs and the price I can't believe Informix is doing anything other than making a quick buck off the GUI age. Also, I've seen the 3.0 beta, talk about disappointments. Bret. > > +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+ > |Mark D. Stock - The West Solutions Group http://www.west.co.za | > | The Informix FAQ is at http://www.iiug.org | > |mailto:marks@west.co.za +------------------------------------------------+ > |Tel: +27 11 803 2151 |If it doesn't work... force it! | > |Fax: +27 11 803 2189 |If it breaks... it needed replacing anyway! | > |Cell: +27 83 250 2325 |Well, that's how I code anyway! | > +------------------------+------------------------------------------------+