RE: So now Informix has RAC
Geeked out by RAC? Uhm... maybe I would, if XPS didn't exist. or should I say did exist? Sorry, my point is that while the lab is doing great things to the product and it shows that the product isn't dead yet, the other side of the house isn't doing anything to promote the product. What's the point about getting jazzed about a feature that is now being viewed as "RAC" (an Oracle feature that they released *years* ago)? Sorry if I'm grounded in reality as to the perception of the marketplace. What is a decent feature will be spun as "playing catch up to Oracle". The problem is this... The IDS market is growing in spite of IBM. Its not a question of "what *I* think of as best" but what is common sense. Sort of like Hamburger Hill in Viet Nam. US sends Army troops to take a hill, and then after a blood bath, they retreat and give it back to the enemy. There are cost effective things that IBM could do to promote IDS and get good PR. Only IBM doesn't want to spend the $$$. Now if this were DB2?.. Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 08:29:58 -0700 From: redden96@yahoo.com Subject: Re: So now Informix has RAC To: informix-list@iiug.org I just meant that I was pretty geeked out about "RAC" on Informix. I would assume that most other Informixers would be too. But instead of being geeked out about it you proceed to tell everyone what's wrong with the world. You cannot be pleased by IBM, they won't do what you think is best. Maybe a sad reality but a reality nonetheless. When someone gives you a bowl of soup, do you say thank you and eat it or complain because it wasn't marketed well enough, or enough effort was not put into pouring it into the bowl? I'll say no more because I don't want to contribute to the demise of this thread. Happy Informixing. ----- Original Message ---- From: Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@hotmail.com> To: DL Redden <redden96@yahoo.com>; informix-list@iiug.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 10:22:17 AM Subject: RE: So now Informix has RAC All the fun? Naw. It must be that you have a boring life that you consider this *fun*. When you get to blow something up, then you're having fun. IDS isn't fun, its business. The issue is that you have a very *viable* platform and its slowly getting killed because of the business side of the shop. You want fun, then lets talk about embedding an open source math library in the engine. You want fun, set up an HACMP set of servers, pull the plug on your main server forcing a crash, and then wait 5 minutes before putting the cord back in, and then rebooting. Time how long it takes to fully recover. (That's fun, right?) Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2008 07:28:29 -0700 From: redden96@yahoo.com Subject: Re: So now Informix has RAC To: informix-list@iiug.org You suck all the fun out of this forum. Maybe you just need to get laid. Smile a little, you'll like it. ----- Original Message ---- From: Ian Michael Gumby <im_gumby@hotmail.com> To: ibmsoftwarequestions@bellmicro.eu; informix-list@iiug.org Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2008 7:58:18 AM Subject: RE: So now Informix has RAC > From: ibmsoftwarequestions@bellmicro.eu > > Great news from IBM and shows continued commitment to Informix and > developing Informix technology. > That was never in question since Janet left the building. I think Janet left the building because IDS in the LUW (why I included windows I don't know...) space is the best performer. What was in question is when would the marketing/sales/higher ups grok what they had and started to push it to the public. The reason I griped about IBM wasn't the techies in the lab. (Including Serge and the guys in Markham.) It was the fact that Databases were being treated as a commodity and IDS was being shoved to the side as IBM flogged DB2 to the masses. Even in white papers publishing cute "hacks" by Martie Laurie on an IDS project have to mention DB2... You want to go head to head against Postgress and Oracle, IDS will crush them in terms of performance and ease of use. (Not to mention TCO) But the "wins" and "customer success stories" aren't coming from IBM, but the Ron Flannery(s) and Bell Micro(s) of the world. (And I know Paul and Stuart are going to slam me for not mentioning their companies.) The extensability is an under appreciated and under used feature because the sales teams don't understand it and the competition doesn't offer it. So why hasn't IBM capitalized on this? Why don't they offer research grants? Why haven't they cross pollinated their "boffins" in NY to take advantage of it? I know Jerry K can't be everywhere, but where is his support from the sales side? (This is why you have BDMs.) But hey! What do I know? ;-) Make i'm yours. Create a custom banner to support your cause. In a rush? Get real-time answers with Windows Live Messenger. _________________________________________________________________ Back to work after baby–how do you know when you’re ready? http://lifestyle.msn.com/familyandparenting/articleNW.aspx?cp-documentid=5797498&ocid=T067MSN40A0701A