PVU - half a license?

Posted in 2007

PeterP — 31 Jan 2007 22:24:42 -0800 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

Licensing Question and yes I have read IBM's FAQ on sub-capacity, so.. As an example, suppose I have 10 Windows machines running dual core Intel CPU's. If I affinitize all Informix processes to run on just one core (PVU of 50 each) then this is a total of 10x50 (500). I effectively end up with 10 machines / instances and only 5 processor licences. Has anyone done this with programs like startaffinity (quick google search) or something better or know what the processes are to affinitize? TIA.

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Neil Truby — Thu, 1 Feb 2007 08:03:10 -0000 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

I don't believe that you can use processor affinity and and NUMCPUVPS to qualify for sub-capacity licesning. I believe that you have to use an apporved virtualisation technology to physically isolate the cpus from the database server, *and* deploy Tivoli Licence Manager (or whatever it's called). What kind of word is "affinitize" by the way? -- Neil Truby t:01932 724027 Director m:07798 811708 Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com "PeterP" <peterpain@gmail.com> wrote in message news:1170311081.977044.280280@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > Licensing Question and yes I have read IBM's FAQ on sub-capacity, so.. > > > As an example, suppose I have 10 Windows machines running dual core > Intel CPU's. > > If I affinitize all Informix processes to run on just one core (PVU of > 50 each) then this is a total of 10x50 (500). > I effectively end up with 10 machines / instances and only 5 processor > licences. > > Has anyone done this with programs like startaffinity (quick google > search) or something better or know what the processes are to > affinitize? > > TIA. >

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Christine Normile — Thu, 1 Feb 2007 05:46:35 -0600 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

Neil is correct. Sub-capacity licensing is enforced with ITLM (IBM Tivoli License Manager). In addition, as of last June, sub-capacity licensing was only available on Enterprise Editions of IBM data servers. You must work with IBM or your IBM software vendor for sub- capacity licensing as additional contracts are required to ensure that the terms and conditions of sub-capacity licensing are understood and enforced. It might be much more cost effective simply to go with Workgroup Edition or Express Edition on dual-core Intel machines. Even if you are configuring an ER environment on these boxes, you would only need Enterprise Edition on any parent nodes. Leaf nodes can now run Workgroup Edition with v10 (subject to change without notices with new versions, check the applicable license agreement). On Feb 1, 2007, at 2:03 AM, Neil Truby wrote: > I don't believe that you can use processor affinity and and > NUMCPUVPS to> qualify for sub-capacity licesning. I believe that you have to use an > apporved virtualisation technology to physically isolate the cpus > from the > database server, *and* deploy Tivoli Licence Manager (or whatever it's > called). > > What kind of word is "affinitize" by the way? > -- > Neil Truby t:01932 724027 > Director m:07798 811708 > Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com > > > "PeterP" <peterpain@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:1170311081.977044.280280@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> Licensing Question and yes I have read IBM's FAQ on sub-capacity, >> so.. >> >> >> As an example, suppose I have 10 Windows machines running dual core >> Intel CPU's. >> >> If I affinitize all Informix processes to run on just one core >> (PVU of >> 50 each) then this is a total of 10x50 (500). >> I effectively end up with 10 machines / instances and only 5 >> processor >> licences. >> >> Has anyone done this with programs like startaffinity (quick google >> search) or something better or know what the processes are to >> affinitize? >> >> TIA. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

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PeterP — 1 Feb 2007 04:18:47 -0800 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

On Feb 1, 7:03 pm, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > I don't believe that you can use processor affinity and and NUMCPUVPS to > qualify for sub-capacity licesning. I believe that you have to use an > apporved virtualisation technology to physically isolate the cpus from the > database server, *and* deploy Tivoli Licence Manager (or whatever it's > called). > > What kind of word is "affinitize" by the way? > -- > Neil Truby t:01932 724027 > Director m:07798 811708 > Ardenta Limited e:neil.tr...@ardenta.com > > "PeterP" <peterp...@gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1170311081.977044.280280@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... > > > Licensing Question and yes I have read IBM's FAQ on sub-capacity, so.. > > > As an example, suppose I have 10 Windows machines running dual core > > Intel CPU's. > > > If I affinitize all Informix processes to run on just one core (PVU of > > 50 each) then this is a total of 10x50 (500). > > I effectively end up with 10 machines / instances and only 5 processor > > licences. > > > Has anyone done this with programs like startaffinity (quick google > > search) or something better or know what the processes are to > > affinitize? > > > TIA. I was not talking about Informix processor affinity / VPCLASS / NUMCPUVPS. I was talking about windows affinity on a dual core machine (it's built in as part of the O.S.) where you ctrl-alt-del and then right click on the process and then checkbox the cpu's you want it to run on. There are programs (like the one I mentioned that seem to do this) pretty easily at process startup time. Affinitize - I can't think of a better word to make up and I used standard Informix U.S. language with a 'z' (as in initialized) despite being English for ease of readability in this group.

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Neil Truby — Thu, 1 Feb 2007 12:50:52 -0000 — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix

>> "PeterP" <peterp...@gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:1170311081.977044.280280@v33g2000cwv.googlegroups.com... >> >> > Licensing Question and yes I have read IBM's FAQ on sub-capacity, so.. >> >> > As an example, suppose I have 10 Windows machines running dual core >> > Intel CPU's. >> >> > If I affinitize all Informix processes to run on just one core (PVU of >> > 50 each) then this is a total of 10x50 (500). >> > I effectively end up with 10 machines / instances and only 5 processor >> > licences. >> >> > Has anyone done this with programs like startaffinity (quick google >> > search) or something better or know what the processes are to >> > affinitize? >> >> > TIA. > > I was not talking about Informix processor affinity / VPCLASS / > NUMCPUVPS. I was talking about windows affinity on a dual core machine > (it's built in as part of the O.S.) where you ctrl-alt-del and then > right click on the process and then checkbox the cpu's you want it to > run on. There are programs (like the one I mentioned that seem to do > this) pretty easily at process startup time. Well I'm not a licesing expert for Windows so I stand to be corrected, but I don't believe that this would qualify for sub-capacity licensing. > Affinitize - I can't think of a better word to make up and I used > standard Informix U.S. language ... Ah, say no more!