RE: onconfig

I don't run onbar, but I suspect you're right. LTAPEDEV, etc. would also probably be in this group as well. Either way, restore the old onconfig and you're OK. It may be a good idea to check the permissions on the file before you're done, though... --EEM -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Ford Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:53 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: onconfig I think the onbar config parameters can be changed on the fly as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Everett Mills" <eemills@nationalbeef.com> To: <informix-list@iiug.org> Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:45 AM Subject: RE: onconfig > Stan- > TAPEDEV, TAPEBLK and TAPESIZE can be modified on the fly through > onconfig. Restore your old onconfig and you should be fine. > > --EEM > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Stan > Sent: Friday, February 09, 2007 11:34 AM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: onconfig > > Hello. > > What will happen when during work (online state) IDS > unfortunately someone modify onconfig. > Which paramaters takes effect immediately (without restrart IDS). > > Thanks in advance > Stan > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Everett Mills wrote: > I don't run onbar, but I suspect you're right. LTAPEDEV, etc. would > also probably be in this group as well. Either way, restore the old > onconfig and you're OK. It may be a good idea to check the permissions > on the file before you're done, though... > > --EEM <SNIP> LTAPEDEV can only be changed effective immediately by onmonitor. Changes made directly to the ONCONFIG file for LTAPEDEV are not effective until the engine is restarted. IB Everett and Andrew have it covered, all but those archive related settings are only effective at startup however, you can see the default, startup, and current settings in the sysmaster:sysconfig table online. Art S. Kagel

> <SNIP> > LTAPEDEV can only be changed effective immediately by onmonitor. > Changes made directly to the ONCONFIG file for LTAPEDEV are not > effective until the engine is restarted. IB Everett and Andrew have it BZZZT! Wrong. Changes to all TAPE* and LTAPE* parameters are noticed by ontape when ontape is next started. Changing of LTAPEDEV from /dev/null to something else immediately means that logical logs immediately start having to be backed up before they can be reused. Changing LTAPEDEV from something else to /dev/null is not noticed immediately. However editing the LTAPEDEV parameter via onmonitor does turn off the 'preserve logical logs until they are are backed up' flag inside the engine! I find there very annoying since we run onbar parallel backups and so only need to keep the logical logs from whilst the backup is running. We currently back up the logs all time, during the backup to SAN space and 90% of the time to local disk. Every 10 minutes a job kicks in and removes the volumes on local disk. What a waste of time and machine resources all because via a script we cannot turn on/off the preservation of logical logs. Can I have a Feature Request for another LTAPEDEV value (parallel_backup ) that means "Do not preserve logical logs for backup unless they are required for restoring a parrallel backup"! Perhaps that can go in Cheetah ;- >> ?? Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! David. PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! > covered, all but those archive related settings are only effective at > startup however, you can see the default, startup, and current settings > in the sysmaster:sysconfig table online. > > Art S. Kagel

<david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. If not let me know and I'll mail you privately with the contact details of the person who got them for me. My perception of past beta programmes - which may be wrong - is that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any non-US organisations are invited to participate. > PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later".

The Open Beta will be just that AFAIK - open to all, the closed Beta which started last year was by invitation only. I think most people are going to be grinning with they start using Cheetah - it is very good Cheers Paul Paul Watson Tel: +44 1414161772 Mob: +44 7818003457 Web: www.oninit.com Failure is not as frightening as regret. Attend IDUG 2007 San Jose, North America May 6-10, 2007 Visit http://www.iiug.org/conf for more information. > -----Original Message----- > From: Neil Truby [mailto:neil.truby@ardenta.com] > Posted At: 11 February 2007 08:31 > Posted To: comp.databases.informix > Conversation: onconfig > Subject: Re: onconfig > > > <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > > > Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! > > I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. > If not let me know and I'll mail you privately with the > contact details of the person who got them for me. My > perception of past beta programmes - which may be wrong - is > that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and > training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any > non-US organisations are invited to participate. > > > PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! > > Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later". > >

Neil Truby wrote: > <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >> Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! > > I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. If not let me > know and I'll mail you privately with the contact details of the person who > got them for me. My perception of past beta programmes - which may be > wrong - is that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and > training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any non-US > organisations are invited to participate. > >> PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! > > Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later". > > Some Americans might pronounce it with an "r" on the end but those are typically only in Massachusetts and maybe a couple of the other 13 original colony states in the northeastern US. Outside of the northeast nobody else in the US would talk like that. The Kennedy clan are a great example of that kind of misuse of English words. The rest of us pronounce it as it is, as in "bay-tah" . alpha, beta, gamma, ... -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= *

Neil, You do not need an application form for the open beta! Everybody will be able to download the new open beta Cheetah product and you do not have to wait long! Please stay tuned. You can be reassured that Europa did got it fair share in the closed beta program as well!! I know 4 German companies who are participating.... bye Sandor "Neil Truby" <neil.truby@arden ta.com> To Sent by: informix-list@iiug.org informix-list-bou cc nces@iiug.org Subject Re: onconfig 11.02.2007 15:31 <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. If not let me know and I'll mail you privately with the contact details of the person who got them for me. My perception of past beta programmes - which may be wrong - is that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any non-US organisations are invited to participate. > PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later". _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Excellent point. I did say "a couple of the other 13 original colony states...", which means two in many cases, sometimes more. Walter Biega for example, would most likely be pronounced Walta Biegar in Massachusetts--at least the Bostonians I had around me were doing. And they like to say "pahk the cah" ( park the car ) or beeah for "beer". They use the term wicked a lot too. As in wicked cold. ;-) Jack Parker wrote: > It should perhaps be pointed out that the 13 original colonies where not all > in what is now the Northeastern US. > > Folks from Mass generally DROP 'r's, not add them. > > Personally I try to avoid saying things like Beta, sticking instead with > important words like 'Beer', 'Pizza', 'Grinder'. > > j. > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool > Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:44 AM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: onconfig > > > > > Neil Truby wrote: >> <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message >> news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... >> >>> Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! >> I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. If not let me >> know and I'll mail you privately with the contact details of the person > who >> got them for me. My perception of past beta programmes - which may be >> wrong - is that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and >> training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any non-US >> organisations are invited to participate. >> >>> PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! >> Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later". >> >> > > > Some Americans might pronounce it with an "r" on the end but those are > typically > only in Massachusetts and maybe a couple of the other 13 original colony > states > in the northeastern US. Outside of the northeast nobody else in the US > would > talk like that. The Kennedy clan are a great example of that kind of misuse > of > English words. > > > The rest of us pronounce it as it is, as in "bay-tah" . alpha, beta, gamma, > ... > > > -- > * > * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= > * > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= * * I am a shill for open systems and open software. * I solved all my SuSE problems by installing Ubuntu. * Microsoft makes great software but lousy operating systems. *

> Neil, > You do not need an application form for the open beta! > Everybody will be able to download the new open beta Cheetah > product and you do not have to wait long! > Please stay tuned. > You can be reassured that Europa did got it fair share in the > closed beta program as well!! I know 4 German companies who > are participating.... > bye > Sandor > There were quite a few in the UK as well Paul Watson Tel: +44 1414161772 Mob: +44 7818003457 Web: www.oninit.com Failure is not as frightening as regret. Attend IDUG 2007 San Jose, North America May 6-10, 2007 Visit http://www.iiug.org/conf for more information.

It should perhaps be pointed out that the 13 original colonies where not all in what is now the Northeastern US. Folks from Mass generally DROP 'r's, not add them. Personally I try to avoid saying things like Beta, sticking instead with important words like 'Beer', 'Pizza', 'Grinder'. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Tool Sent: Monday, February 12, 2007 1:44 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: onconfig Neil Truby wrote: > <david@smooth1.co.uk> wrote in message > news:1171170560.705250.70990@a75g2000cwd.googlegroups.com... > >> Also when is the "open Cheetah Beta" starting I want in! > > I think UK Tech Support can send you the application forms. If not let me > know and I'll mail you privately with the contact details of the person who > got them for me. My perception of past beta programmes - which may be > wrong - is that because they like to have occasional get-togethers and > training etc, and therefore to minimise costs, few if any non-US > organisations are invited to participate. > >> PS That rhymes "Cheetah Beta"!! > > Americans pronounce "Beta" to rhyme with "Later". > > Some Americans might pronounce it with an "r" on the end but those are typically only in Massachusetts and maybe a couple of the other 13 original colony states in the northeastern US. Outside of the northeast nobody else in the US would talk like that. The Kennedy clan are a great example of that kind of misuse of English words. The rest of us pronounce it as it is, as in "bay-tah" . alpha, beta, gamma, ... -- * * http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVS3kdXycrM&mode=related&search= * _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

"Paul Watson" <paul@oninit.com> wrote in message news:0e8901c74ef5$25677640$0701a8c0@arnold... >> Neil, >> You do not need an application form for the open beta! >> Everybody will be able to download the new open beta Cheetah >> product and you do not have to wait long! >> Please stay tuned. >> You can be reassured that Europa did got it fair share in the >> closed beta program as well!! I know 4 German companies who >> are participating.... >> bye >> Sandor >> > > There were quite a few in the UK as well It's obviously something I said then!