Re: Senior Oracle DBA now Learning Informix by Request
Answered: amber (solid confidence) — Buried in a quality-vs-market-share flame war, a genuine technical question ('what does Oracle RAC give you that Informix doesn't') gets a real, concrete answer citing Transparent Application Failover and Fast Connection Failover.
Advisory only.
Posted in 2006
Topics: Server Administration, Clustering, Grid & MACH11
Tambi Dude wrote: > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1166114534.310354@bubbleator.drizzle.com... >> Tambi Dude wrote: >>> "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message >>> news:1166054192.895791@bubbleator.drizzle.com... >>>> Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Funny how most of the dinosaur Informix DBA's are still managing their >>>>> IDS >>>>> databases the way they managed version 7. >>>> And the market penetration of Informix and Oracle 7 are roughly similar. >>> And market penetration of Windows vs. Apple is also roughly similar. >>> >>> Only a fool will take market penetration of a product as any >>> indictar of the quality. Microsoft - Just one word. >> On the other hand it is an excellent indicator of available employment. >> >> I found Fortran IV technically excellent. Quite sure I'd be working >> today if I didn't move on. > > May be true, but you are not saying anything which disproves my > statement. Once again, Microsoft and Oracle products prove that > best selling may not be best in quality. Do you disagree :-) Absolutely. Best selling <> Best quality. But show equal integrity and acknowledge the following: Best selling (may be the result of) Best quality. How one defines quality is critical. You likely rate Informix quality on what it can do. I might rate it on what it can not do. Anytime you succeed in building the equivalent of a RAC cluster let me know. <g> -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org
DA Morgan said: > Best selling (may be the result of) Best quality. Well, as a theoretical possibility, sure. But give me five examples of where the market leader is demonstrably and unequivocally also the best quality. > How one defines quality is critical. You likely rate Informix quality > on what it can do. I might rate it on what it can not do. Anytime you > succeed in building the equivalent of a RAC cluster let me know. <g> What does a RAC cluster give you that I can't get in Informix some other way? -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I don't read newspapers anymore except the local rag which I do weekly to cheer myself trying to see if anyone I hate has been stabbed." -- Horribilis XVI -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > What does a RAC cluster give you that I can't get in Informix some other way? > An administrative headache?
Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > DA Morgan said: > >> Best selling (may be the result of) Best quality. > > Well, as a theoretical possibility, sure. But give me five examples of > where the market leader is demonstrably and unequivocally also the best > quality. > >> How one defines quality is critical. You likely rate Informix quality >> on what it can do. I might rate it on what it can not do. Anytime you >> succeed in building the equivalent of a RAC cluster let me know. <g> > > What does a RAC cluster give you that I can't get in Informix some other way? Many things. Among the most obvious transparent application failover (TAF) and Fast Connection Failover (FCF). Neither capability can be duplicated in Informix, DB2, Sybase, or SQL Server. To quote Oracle: "The Transparent Application Failover (TAF) feature is a runtime failover for high-availability environments, such as Oracle Real Application Clusters. TAF fails over and reestablishes application-to-service connections. It enables client applications to automatically reconnect to the database if the connection fails and, optionally, resume a SELECT statement that was in progress. The reconnection happens automatically from within the Oracle Call Interface (OCI) library." SELECT statement no only resume ... they resume seamlessly. In others words it is not a restart ... it resumes in a fraction of a second precisely where it was interrupted. -- Daniel A. Morgan University of Washington damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond) Puget Sound Oracle Users Group www.psoug.org