RE: [Q] Patrol, Tivoli et al.

I have Patrol, been running it for about 6 months, for monitoring 7.11 engines. It's OK. I had to tweak it ALOT to get it work out of the box. There were some changes in onstat output, around the 7.10.UD1 time frame, which Patrol was/is not aware of (Patrol generates and manipulates onstat output a lot). I was not impressed with BMC's QA of the Informix knowledge module. There are a few things which I think the product should do (and any other DBA would too), but it doesn't. I'll probably be writing my own knowledge module/parameters to do it. The benefit to Patrol, is that it can be used to monitor the systems, and other applications, with a consistent GUI. Also, as Cheryl indicated, you can use to monitor versions 5, 6, and 7. For the most part, it's OK. Comparing to EcoTools or Platnum, I don't know how it rates. I've seen cockpit (not available for my Sequents), but reports from others, is that it's limited (again this from others...I have no hands-on). I have OnPerf with my Sequent ports. It's a cool tool, but not a realtime monitoring tool. I see it more as a number collection and performance analysis tool, for queries. I think most people use it collect data, and review... I too had been waiting for the new tools, which I thought was going to Tivoli based, and coming out late this year. The product I was aware of, was dubbed The Informix Enterprise Command Center (IECC). This product was/is being deployed with XPS. I thought it is was going to be later rolled back to a 7.x release. This appears to not be the case. I too had been trying to find out more information. Apparently, not too many people know what's going on (maybe because Informix themselves is uncertain ??). I learned Friday, that the IECC, which is Tivoli based, remains with XPS. There are some features, etc., which are truly XPS specific. I don't know that there is any other Tivoli based product available, for monitoring Informix. I also learned, that there is a new tool (or a subset of IECC ?), which will be coming out with 7.3, which is dubbed something like ROM (sp ??). It is essentially the same tool which is bundled in with the Workgroup Server, which is starting to ship now. This tool, and what will be part of 7.3, is an esql/c application, and will not require Tivoli. It will have basically the same the functionality as the IECC (the Tivoli based tool), without the stuff which is XPS specific (DBSlices, etc.). My contact indicated this ROM tool/7.3 would be shipping in 1Q97. Hope this helps....If not, email me, and I'll try to fill in remaining blanks. Jon ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon C. Vemo jvemo@cyberspace.com Bothell, WA USA ---------- From: Cheryl Kendricks[SMTP:cherylk@prod1.jcdc.doleta.gov] Sent: Sunday, June 23, 1996 11:01 PM To: Peter Tashkoff Cc: informix-list@rmy.emory.edu Subject: Re: [Q] Patrol, Tivoli et al. I'v also looked at Patrol but being I did not look at DBCockpit/OnPerf that is already included in the 7.X system, the advantage I could only see is that Patrol will also be able to monitor my 5.X system. I've been asking and never received a response, yet the Tivoli software was orginally suppose to be included in the 7.2 version (elminating DBcockpit/OnPerf). Like you I would like to here about this, yet all I've ever gotten was the Software Vendors Input. Patrol, BMC and Tivoli customers on this list where are you!!! ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Cheryl Kendricks Internet:cherylk@prod1.jcdc.doleta.gov OR cherylk@gwysmtp.jcdc.doleta.gov DTSI, Inc. Database Administrator - DOL Job Corps San Marcos, Texas ------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Fri, 21 Jun 1996, Peter Tashkoff wrote: > Hi > Has anyone had experience in any of the tools that > overlay Informix/Unix for monitoring purposes? > > Any products that are good or should be avoided? > > We are presently taking a look at Patrol and expect > to look at others before making a final decision. > Thanks in advance > -- > -- > Peter Tashkoff > NZ Kiwifruit Project Consultant/DBA > Marketing Board. Standard Disclaimers apply > This posting may not be used by any commercial > organisation to vilify another. > > >