Re: Strong informix DBA needed in the UK

still ... "Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> wrote in message news:4thanqF13j0o8U1@mid.individual.net... > Ardenta is looking for a Technical consultant with at least 5 years' > Informix experience, and excellent UNIX and/or Linux skills, including > installation and configuration. The job will primarily be based at Ardenta > Towers in sunny Sunbury on Thames, South West of London and winner of Time > Out magaizine's award as "London's Most Boring Suburb". > > A good university degree or equivalent is highly desirable. > > Any database skills in addition to Informix would be considered > advantageous. > > Exposure to storage area networks, particularly EMC's, will interest us. > > We also require a good understanding of networking, including WAN, LAN, > VPN, SAN. > > Ardenta provides IT services and products to organisations that value > high-availability systems, mainly in the UK, some in Europe, some as far > away as the US and Australia. The focus is on providing support and > implementing technical projects for mission-critical systems, and working > with business partners such as IBM to provide new hardware and software. > Our clients range from Musgrave Budgens Londis through BUPA to the BBC and > ITV. > > No agencies please, and sorry, we cannot sponsor any work permit > applications. > > For more details please write to careers@ardenta.com

Neil Truby wrote: > still ... > I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us out-of-towners. :-)

Yeah Thats a bit of a rub. If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU. So the hiring goes, local country, EU, then maybe non-EU. So in effect, the hurdle of using a US based resource got a tad harder in the UK. (Unless you can show that you have a special skill that they couldn't find in the UK/EU world.) Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too expensive. ;-) > >Neil Truby wrote: > > still ... > > >I'd come over and help, if you'd have me, but you don't sponsor us >out-of-towners. > >:-) > > >_______________________________________________ >Informix-list mailing list >Informix-list@iiug.org >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ Get free, personalized commercial-free online radio with MSN Radio powered by Pandora http://radio.msn.com/?icid=T002MSN03A07001

"Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gumby@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:mailman.481.1165506409.29126.informix-list@iiug.org... > Yeah > > Thats a bit of a rub. > > If you're local to the EU, you can work anywhere in the EU. > > So the hiring goes, local country, EU, . There's no distinction at all between UK and EU citizens. Each is equally entitled to work here, and in fact it's probably against the law to discriminate in favour of UK citizens at the expense of other EU ones. This has led to an influx of Eastern Europeans, mainly Poles, since the accession of those countries to the EU. They have come in in quantites far greater than our incompetent government predicted - 15,000 were expected in the 2 years after 2004 whereas 600,000 have actually arrived. So far this has been generally perceived as a Good Thing: Poles are hard-working, diligent, and have taken a lot of jobs such as cleaning, plumbing and construction in which there was previously a shortage. However some more countries are joining the EU soon, amongst them Romania (which I'm sure was called Rumania when I was young) and Bulgaria, and the tabloid press are concerned that a) another wave of immigrants will arrive and we will be unable to assimilate them in our small country, already the most densely-populated in Europe and b) these countries are assocaited with organised crime. Our apology for a Home Secretary has made some tough-sounding announcements about restircting the right of these people to settle and work in the UK, but these "restrictions" are widely held to be unenforcable (not to mention the blatant inequity of restircting access on the grounds on national stereotype!). >> ... then maybe non-EU The governing Labour Party here is historically linked to the interests of the workers, and therefore has in the past been hostile to business. However, Tony Blair's Offend-No-One "New" Labour has cosied up to business in a big way. But only to Big Business. Consequently the likes of Accenture, EDS, Siemens and indeed IBM have been able to convince the government that there is a shortage of IT skills in the UK, which means that multi-nationals are allowed to ship non-EU citizen employees into the UK almost without restriction, in the process of course undermining the smaller, indigenous supplier and individual. Funnily enough almost all these Skills Transfer incomers come from low-wage economies rather than, for example, the US ... > Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too > expensive. ;-) Really? There was recently a 4GL programmer job on the board in St Louis or somewhere else I'd never heard of, paying US$60-70k. At today's exchange rate that's about '30k, which doesn't seem at all uncompetitive to me.

Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > Yeah > > Thats a bit of a rub. > The original post mentioned that they don't sponsor people, so that would include me. It wasn't meant as a rub, simply an unfortunate situation that the only way I would be able to work in the UK _is_ on a sponsored visa. I thought of it more as a working vacation from the US.

Captain Pedantic wrote: > "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gumby@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:mailman.481.1165506409.29126.informix-list@iiug.org... ...snip... >> Besides, even with the devalued Dollar to the pound/euro, we're still too >> expensive. ;-) > > Really? There was recently a 4GL programmer job on the board in St Louis or > somewhere else I'd never heard of, paying US$60-70k. At today's exchange > rate that's about '30k, which doesn't seem at all uncompetitive to me. > I would expect a 4GL programmer to easily double that as a contractor here in the US. Even back in the 1990's you could easily get $50/hr USD for 4GL programming if not more than that, which on a 2000 hour work year translates into $100,000 USD. Today I'd expect because of the shortage of Informix people that you could easily jack it up to $70 or $80 USD per hour. Not that anyone would want to program 4GL anymore, but I'm sure because it's legacy, it's probably going to get a good billable rate now, kinda like COBOL did for Y2K. I would even imagine there are guy/gals doing 4GL now getting even more money, probably +$100/hr. If they aren't well, they should be. :-)

My wife is pushing me to find something international. I think she intends to come with me, but now that I think about it she hasn't actually said that. ;-) Double Echo wrote: > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > Yeah > > > > Thats a bit of a rub. > > > > The original post mentioned that they don't sponsor people, so > that would include me. It wasn't meant as a rub, simply an > unfortunate situation that the only way I would be able to work > in the UK _is_ on a sponsored visa. I thought of it more as a > working vacation from the US.