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Thread starts from a question about using archecker to verify ON-Bar backups (one poster verifies with 'onbar -v' every couple of weeks, noting verification takes about as long as the backup, and mentions archecker sometimes reporting failures on good ontape backups). The spin-off question: how to verify backups when using ontape, which has no -v option. Suggested answer was 'archecker -tdvs...' with AC_CONFIG configured, but the asker runs OnLine 7.23.UC11 on HP-UX and archecker wasn't generally shipped/available for that old release. The practical advice given: restore the ontape backup onto a test/QA box configured like production (zeroing the chunks first) and run oncheck against the restored data; alternatively ask Technical Support for an archecker copy. No single definitive fix beyond the test-restore approach.
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So what's the best way to verify if we use ONTAPE rather than ONBAR?
ONTAPE doesn't have a -v option...
Rob
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[mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Kennedy, John
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:26 AM
To: Floyd Wellershaus; informix-list@iiug.org
Subject: RE: anybody using Archecker with Onbar ?
Hello Floyd,
We do not verify every onbar backup, just every two weeks. Although we
have run onbar -v, during high load on the system during the day with no
major performance issues, and from my recollection the last time I
checked the verification takes slightly less time than the actual backup
itself.
Cheers
John
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From: Floyd Wellershaus [mailto:fwellers@yahoo.com]
Sent: 27 April 2006 13:22
To: Kennedy, John; informix-list@iiug.org
Subject: Re: anybody using Archecker with Onbar ?
Thanks John. Do you verify each and every onbar backup you make or just
spot check them ?
Our big instance takes about 4.5 hours to backup, so I am guessing it
will take an equal amount of time to verify it.
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From: "Kennedy, John" <john.kennedy@logicacmg.com>
To: Floyd Wellershaus <fwellers@yahoo.com>; informix-list@iiug.org
Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 8:01:33 AM
Subject: RE: anybody using Archecker with Onbar ?
Hello Floyd,
we here use onbar -v to verify our backups, I believe this just calls
the archecker utility to verify the backups.
There is an outstanding issue regarding Archecker failing when the
backup is actually successful, this was noted when we ran it on an
ontape backup however I am not sure if this same case for the
verifications using onbar -v.
I am investigating at the moment and will feedback to you with my
findings.
Cheers
John
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Sent: 27 April 2006 11:59
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Subject: anybody using Archecker with Onbar ?
I am wondering if it is considered best practice by many to use
Archecker to verify Onbar backups.
I've never used it before. Is it worth the resources it uses on the
system ( ie, a tape drive, database and system resources) ?
Also, I notice that it does the equivelent of oncheck -cd, ce and cr on
the backup tape. That seems to be a quick/alternate way to verify the
data on our database. Any thoughts about that ?
Thanks for any advice.
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The problem with archecker is that it is a third party package and we
can't load much in the way of extra stuff unless we write it ourselves
with the utilities that are already in place. :(
Any other ideas?
INFORMIX-OnLine ver 7.23.UC11
HPUX 11.x
Rob
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Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:06 AM
To: informix-list@iiug.org
Subject: Re: ONTAPE verification - was RE: anybody using Archecker with
Onbar ?
archecker -tdvs....
and configure the AC_CONFIG file.
Superboer.
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Konikoff, Rob (Contractor) wrote:
> The problem with archecker is that it is a third party package and we
> can't load much in the way of extra stuff unless we write it ourselves
> with the utilities that are already in place. :(
>
> Any other ideas?
>
> INFORMIX-OnLine ver 7.23.UC11
> HPUX 11.x
>
> Rob
>
7.23.UC11 is so old, that it isn't even mentioned on the support pages
(sounds a bit like "My mother in law is so fat ...")
http://www-306.ibm.com/software/data/informix/support/plc/
7.24 went EOS 31st December 2002.
I wonder if 7.23.UC11 is Y2K compliant :O
7.24 went EOS 31st December 2002.
I wonder if 7.23.UC11 is Y2K compliant :O
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Hahaha well, our applications are built using internal date math that
is based on data fields that are all numerical sequence numbers, not
actual dates, so we really don't have that kind of problem. We updated
some of the data fields and changed a couple of structures to
accommodate a full year, but it worked without a problem.
Besides, it's EXPENSIVE to upgrade! And HEY! I get paid to keep the
customer happy!
↪ replying to Konikoff, Rob (Contractor)
John Carlson — — source: Usenet: comp.databases.informix
On Thu, 27 Apr 2006 08:38:04 -0400, "Konikoff, Rob \\(Contractor\\)"
<rob.konikoff@us.army.mil> wrote:
>So what's the best way to verify if we use ONTAPE rather than ONBAR?
>ONTAPE doesn't have a -v option...
>
>Rob
restore it to a QA box logically configured like your production box .
. . .
JWC
Hello Rob
archecker is not a 3rd party product, it is bundled with later
versions.
in 7.2X it was sort of internal only...
anyways you may contact TS and ask if you can get a copy... long shot..
fingers crossed... hopefully you get away with it....
or as indicated restore on a test box.
first zero out the chunks to be used!!!
then restore
then run all the onchecks you can think of on the restored data.
Superboer.
Konikoff, Rob (Contractor) schreef:
> 7.24 went EOS 31st December 2002.
>
> I wonder if 7.23.UC11 is Y2K compliant :O
> _______________________________________________
>
>
> Hahaha well, our applications are built using internal date math that
> is based on data fields that are all numerical sequence numbers, not
> actual dates, so we really don't have that kind of problem. We updated
> some of the data fields and changed a couple of structures to
> accommodate a full year, but it worked without a problem.
>
> Besides, it's EXPENSIVE to upgrade! And HEY! I get paid to keep the
> customer happy!
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