IDS 14.10.FC13 compatibility with other Informix tools

Hi Experts, We plan to upgrade current IDS 12.10.FC10 to IDS 14.10.FC13 on AIX 7.2 and noticed that apart from IDS 12.10.fc10 we have other installations (below) on the same AIX server. We are in the planning stage & would like to know if all these tools below are compatible with IDS14.10.FC13 or do these also require update. If update is must then please let me know which versions are compatible with 14.10 IBM INFORMIX-4GL Interactive Debugger Version 7.51.FC2 IBM INFORMIX-4GL Rapid Development System Version 7.51.FC2 IBM INFORMIX-4GL Version 7.51.FC2 IBM INFORMIX-SQL Version 7.51.FC2 IBM Informix Dynamic Server Version 12.10.FC10 IBM/Informix C++ API 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix EMBEDDED SQL for C Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBASF LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBDMI LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBGEN LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBOS LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBSQL LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix ODBC LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix-Client SDK Version 4.10.FC10 INFORMIX LIBGLS LIBRARY Version 6.00.FC11 Thank you, Syed ------------------------------ Syed Hussaini ------------------------------

Syed: All of those products are compatible with IDS v14.10.FC13. However, the CSDK which contains all of the following: IBM/Informix C++ API 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix EMBEDDED SQL for C Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBASF LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBDMI LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBGEN LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBOS LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix LIBSQL LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix ODBC LIBRARY Version 4.10.FC10 IBM/Informix-Client SDK Version 4.10.FC10 INFORMIX LIBGLS LIBRARY Version 6.00.FC11 should be upgraded to the CSDK v4.50.<latest>, if for no other reason than because it will support any new features in v14.10 that did not exist in v12.10 for which the CSDK v4.10 was built. Art ------------------------------ Art S. Kagel, President and Principal Consultant ASK Database Management Corp. www.askdbmgt.com ------------------------------

Hi Syed, You should be just fine. You can try the 4gl demo program and run it on the migrated Informix IDS 14.10.FC13 if you want. Informix SQL is a product that does not evolve and should work just fine. Khaled

you probably want to wait for 14.10.FC13W2 which is coming ------------------------------ ke chen ------------------------------

If you use sqlhosts with the CSDK then either use 4.50.12 or wait for the new version 4.50.14 tentatively scheduled for release a week from today. Using CSDK 4.50.13 and above with sqlhosts will return an Error -79716. ------------------------------ Daniel Karwatka ------------------------------

Hi Daniel, Can you clarify what you mean: Is there a problem with CSDK 4.50.13 in combination with Informix 14.10.13 or other versions? What is the PMR number for this problem and why do we have to wait for CSDK 4.50.14 and Informix 14.10.14. Оne of our clients wants to migrate soon то 14.10.13 and I am interested in information about all the problems fixed or not in this version. I know and I have read fix list. Are there any unfixed bugs that you personally know about? Regards, ------------------------------ Boycho Velkov ------------------------------

We are receiving Error -79716 using SQLHOSTS with JDBC 4.50.13 and above. No problem with SQLHOSTS using JDBC 4.50.12. Our case number was TS021192080. According to tech support, the sqlhosts fix will be in the CSDK release scheduled for this coming Thursday. Separately, we have been unable to apply fixes packs to go from Workgroups 14.10.11 to 14.10.13 because it reverts to the developer edition when the fixpack is appied and the Workgroup licenses are not provided for 14.10.12 or 14.10.13. ------------------------------ Daniel Karwatka ------------------------------

Dear Syed, Thank you for sharing your plans to upgrade the database environment from Informix IDS 12.10.FC10 to IDS 14.10.FC13 on AIX 7.2. From a FourJs / Genero and modernization perspective, please find our observations below: 1.Existing Informix 4GL and SQL Tools The following tools are compatible with **IDS 14.10.FC13** and do **not require a mandatory upgrade** as part of the database migration: * IBM Informix-4GL (7.51.FC2) * Informix-4GL Interactive Debugger (7.51.FC2) * Informix-4GL Rapid Development System (7.51.FC2) * IBM Informix-SQL (7.51.FC2) These tools are expected to continue functioning normally after the IDS upgrade. 2. Client SDK and Libraries – Recommended for Genero Alignment If the environment uses **client-side components** such as ESQL/C, ODBC, C/C++ APIs, or related Informix client libraries, we strongly recommend upgrading the **Informix Client SDK (CSDK)** to a version aligned with IDS 14.10. * Recommended version: **Informix Client SDK 4.50 (latest fix pack, e.g., FC13 or higher) ** This alignment is particularly important for customers who are: * Planning or evaluating **Genero-based modernization * Migrating Informix 4GL applications to **Genero BDL * Integrating modern UI, web, or REST-based architectures Using a current Client SDK ensures stability, better interoperability, and smoother coexistence with **Genero runtime and drivers**. 3. Genero and Modernization Readiness Upgrading to **IDS 14.10** provides a strong and fully supported foundation for: * Modernizing legacy Informix 4GL applications using **Genero** * Gradual migration (coexistence of Informix 4GL and Genero) * Enhancing applications with modern UI, web, and service-oriented capabilities while preserving business logic No immediate changes to existing 4GL applications are required as part of the IDS upgrade; however, aligning client components now will simplify future modernization initiatives. 4. Recommended Next Steps * Proceed with the IDS upgrade to **14.10.FC13** on AIX 7.2 * Plan the **Client SDK upgrade** alongside or shortly after the server upgrade * Validate application connectivity and workflows * Optionally assess readiness for **Genero-based modernization** at a later stage Please let us know if you would like FourJs to support you with upgrade validation, Genero readiness assessment, or a phased modernization roadmap. Best regards, FourJs Team ------------------------------ Salomi Gaddam ------------------------------

Hi, Is CSDK 4.50.FC14 out yet? I could not see it on https://www.ibm.com/support/pages/download-informix-products Regards, David. ------------------------------ David Williams Senior Database Platform Engineer Flutter London ------------------------------

I've been checking since Thursday and I haven't seen it either. I did ask tech support for an updated release schedule earlier today. ------------------------------ Daniel Karwatka ------------------------------

Hi Syed, Khaled, Hi Ke Chen, Thank you for raising this topic and for the valuable inputs shared. From a compatibility standpoint, Khaled is correct that IBM Informix Dynamic Server 14.10 maintains a high level of backward compatibility. In many cases, existing applications built with IBM Informix 4GL and Informix SQL will continue to run after the upgrade, especially for standard use cases. That said, as Syed is in the planning phase, it is important to highlight that these tool versions are quite mature and are not officially certified with newer IDS releases. While basic functionality may work, we often see challenges in areas such as: Client/runtime compatibility (especially with older SDK components) Locale and GLS behavior differences Long-term maintainability and supportability Ke Chen's recommendation to wait for IBM Informix Dynamic Server 14.10.FC13W2 is also very sensible, particularly for production environments where stability is critical. From a 4JS perspective, many organizations in a similar situation take this opportunity not only to upgrade the database, but also to review their application stack. Solutions like Genero are designed to: Ensure full compatibility with current Informix versions Provide a supported and actively evolving 4GL environment Enable gradual modernization (without requiring a full rewrite) Of course, regardless of the path chosen, we strongly recommend: Thorough regression testing of all applications Validation of client components and libraries A staged upgrade approach (test → UAT → production) Thanks again for the discussion-this is a very relevant topic for many Informix users planning their next upgrade. Kind regards, Salomi ------------------------------ Salomi ------------------------------