Installation Sequence
A user on HP-UX 11i had already installed IDS 10 plus CSDK and asked whether he must uninstall them before adding 4GL 7.32, given the old "Rules of TEN" (Tools, Engines, Networking) install-order advice. Answers: no uninstall needed; just install 4GL with the engine offline and test, and if libraries/message files misbehave, simply reinstall CSDK and IDS afterwards. 4GL can share the same INFORMIXDIR as CSDK since its ESQL/C files are named differently, though some prefer separate directories (required for 64-bit IDS with 32-bit tools) with a single shared sqlhosts via symlinks. Existing databases are unaffected if the instance is offline; back up onconfig and sqlhosts first.
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Hi all, I installed IDS 10 in HPUX 11i. After installed, 4GL is needed to run the application. Then, I want to install 4GL v7.32 (e.g. runtimes). I found some installation guides and newsgroups mentioned the installation should be in sequence ... and uninstall CSDK. Do I need to uninstall the IDS and/or CSDK ? Many thanks !
You don't have to uninstall, just reinstall the CSDK and IDS after installing the C4GL. FYI, following the sequence of installation, known in the Informix Community as the Rules of TEN (Tools then Engines then Networking) is supposed to be no longer required. So it might be worth a try just installing 4GL with the engine offline and try to bring the engine back online. If that works you are probably fine but test the CSDK also. If engine restart or some application run fails (especially if it fails on some shared library or message file error) then you can reinstall the CSK and the engine. At any rate the order of installing IDS and CSDK is definitely no longer a concern. Art S. Kagel ----- Original Message ----- From: Isa I <ids@iiug.org> To: ids@iiug.org At: 11/15 9:39:35 Hi all, I installed IDS 10 in HPUX 11i. After installed, 4GL is needed to run the application. Then, I want to install 4GL v7.32 (e.g. runtimes). I found some installation guides and newsgroups mentioned the installation should be in sequence ... and uninstall CSDK. Do I need to uninstall the IDS and/or CSDK ? Many thanks ! ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Hi, No experience with IDS 10, but up to now with 9.40 I always installed (I just did it yesterday once again)in the following sequence : Cliensdk (esql/c) Esql/cobol SQL 4GL IDS Which works fine. If you need to update SQL or 4Gl, in my opinion you have to reinstall. Best regards, Jacques Lapeire -----Original Message----- From: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of ISA I Sent: donderdag 15 november 2007 15:39 To: ids@iiug.org Subject: Installation Sequence [10374] Hi all, I installed IDS 10 in HPUX 11i. After installed, 4GL is needed to run the application. Then, I want to install 4GL v7.32 (e.g. runtimes). I found some installation guides and newsgroups mentioned the installation should be in sequence ... and uninstall CSDK. Do I need to uninstall the IDS and/or CSDK ? Many thanks ! ************************************************************************ ******* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Many thanks, I am newbie in informix. I found 4GL intallation guide mentioned CSDK bundled in IDS and CSDK bundled in 4GL can be installed in same directory. For my case, I already installed IDS + CSDK. Do I install the 4GL's CSDK in another informix directory or overwrite the IDS' CSDK? For example, existing IDS informix home: /informix Do I install 4GL in /informix or another informix home e.g. /usr/informix? Thanks again!
Hi Lapeire, I already setup a database. If I install the 4GL (bundled CSDK), and/or ESQL, then reinstall IDS, any impact to the existing database? Thanks a lot !
None at all, presuming you take the instance off-line while reinstalling. Oh and make a copy of your onconfig and sqlhosts files just in case. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Praise the Lord oh my soul, let my inmost being praise His holy name. -Psalm 103:1 ----- Original Message ---- From: ISA I <isa7asi@hotmail.com> To: ids@iiug.org Sent: Thursday, November 15, 2007 9:18:19 AM Subject: RE: Installation Sequence [10380] Hi Lapeire, I already setup a database. If I install the 4GL (bundled CSDK), and/or ESQL, then reinstall IDS, any impact to the existing database? Thanks a lot ! ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
You can install in the same directory. The ESQL/C pre-compiler message files and libraries in C4GL are all named differently than their CSDK equivalents so no clashes. Art S. Kagel ----- Original Message ----- From: Isa I <ids@iiug.org> To: ids@iiug.org At: 11/15 10:13:44 Many thanks, I am newbie in informix. I found 4GL intallation guide mentioned CSDK bundled in IDS and CSDK bundled in 4GL can be installed in same directory. For my case, I already installed IDS + CSDK. Do I install the 4GL's CSDK in another informix directory or overwrite the IDS' CSDK? For example, existing IDS informix home: /informix Do I install 4GL in /informix or another informix home e.g. /usr/informix? Thanks again! ******************************************************************************* Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.
Hi, you CAN install into the same directory, but I prefer to install different products into different directories - at least to separate IDS and tools/SDKs. If you want to use 64bit IDS with 32bit developing tools you MUST do it that way. Only disadvantage: You have to set INFORMIXDIR to different values when developing/using client applications and administering IDS. You avoid all order issues and you can easily switch between different versions for the different products. I would suggest to have only ONE sqlhosts file (in the IDS directory?) and pointing to it with symbolic links from the 4GL,SDK directories. Regards, Andreas Kutsche > ------------------------------------------- SPAR Österreichische Warenhandels-AG Hauptzentrale A - 5015 Salzburg, Europastrasse 3 FN 34170 a Tel: +43 662 4470 24223 Mobile: +43 664 6259575 E-Mail: Andreas.KUTSCHE@spar.at Internet: http://www.spar.at Wichtiger Hinweis: Der Inhalt dieser E-Mail kann vertrauliche und rechtlich geschützte Informationen, insbesondere Betriebs- oder Geschäftsgeheimnisse, enthalten, zu deren Geheimhaltung der Empfänger verpflichtet ist. Die Informationen in dieser E-Mail sind ausschließlich für den Adressaten bestimmt. Sollten Sie die E-Mail irrtümlich erhalten haben so ersuchen wir Sie, die Nachricht von Ihrem System zu löschen und sich mit uns in Verbindung zu setzen. Über das Internet versandte E-Mails können leicht manipuliert oder unter fremdem Namen erstellt werden. Daher schließen wir die rechtliche Verbindlichkeit der in dieser Nachricht enthaltenen Informationen aus. Der Inhalt der E-Mail ist nur rechtsverbindlich, wenn er von uns schriftlich bestätigt und gezeichnet wird. Sollte trotz der von uns verwendeten Virus-Schutzprogramme durch die Zusendung von E-Mails ein Virus in Ihre Systeme gelangen, haften wir nicht für evtl. hieraus entstehende Schäden. Wir danken für Ihr Verständnis. Important notice: The contents of this e-mail may contain confidential and legally protected information that is in particular related to operational and trade secrets, which the recipient is obliged to treat as confidential. The information in this e-mail is made available exclusively for use by the addressee. In the event that the e-mail may have been sent to you in error, we would ask you to kindly delete this communication from your system and to contact us. E-mails sent via the Internet can be easily manipulated or sent out under someone else's name. We therefore do not accept legal liability for the information contained in this communication. The contents of the e-mail are only legally binding if they have been confirmed and signed by us in writing. If, in spite of our using Antivirus protection software, a virus may have penetrated your system through the sending of this e-mail, we do not accept liability for any damage that may possibly arise as a result of this. We trust that you appreciate our position. ------------------------------------------- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- > Von: ids-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:ids-bounces@iiug.org] Im Auftrag von ART > KAGEL, BLOOMBERG/ 731 LEXIN > Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. November 2007 16:40 > An: ids@iiug.org > Betreff: Re:Installation Sequence [10382] > > You can install in the same directory. The ESQL/C pre-compiler message > files > and libraries in C4GL are all named differently than their CSDK > equivalents so > no clashes. > > Art S. Kagel > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Isa I <ids@iiug.org> > To: ids@iiug.org > At: 11/15 10:13:44 > > Many thanks, I am newbie in informix. I found 4GL intallation guide > mentioned > CSDK bundled in IDS and CSDK bundled in 4GL can be installed in same > directory. > > For my case, I already installed IDS + CSDK. Do I install the 4GL's CSDK > in > another informix directory or overwrite the IDS' CSDK? > > For example, existing IDS informix home: /informix > Do I install 4GL in /informix or another informix home e.g. /usr/informix? > > Thanks again! > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum. > > > ************************************************************************** > ***** > Forum Note: Use "Reply" to post a response in the discussion forum.