Re: IDS 11 - Press Releases

There are plenty of born-in-the-US Americans, ( American Natives ) that should not be around technology or business. But they are amongst us. Putting out arguments about racist views is only a distraction, the company would love for you to think along those lines, when the reality is, the company is the one you should point your anger at. Who cares about whether it's Indians, Chinese, Vietnamese, Brazilians, Americans, etc etc etc., this is just superficial nonsense that clouds the real issue, corporate greed. Outsourcing at its roots is the displacement of work from one location to another. To argue in its favor is to miss the point, corporate greed. Small mom-and-pop businesses don't use outsourcing, only big companies who can afford to. There is a lot of cost of making it work, leveraged on huge amounts of money, and the exploitation of people who are willing to work for less than the workers they are replacing. Our country has a rich history of corporate greed, and labor exploitation. So I think we see things a little differently than perhaps somebody in a "developing" nation that has nowhere to go but up. IBM reported a very nice Q4 in 2006, but did that stop them from wanting to layoff thousands of workers? No! Corporate greed and placating the shareholders was the driving force. Don't let superficial bullshit about national differences and quality of workers cloud your thinking, these are all small fry issues. Think about the root cause, follow the money. The fact or non-fact that a lot of projects fail in the US is just a red herring, the real problem is the greed factor, that fuels managers into making bad decisions. If the project failed, blame the managers. IBM classes its people into managers and performers. It's corporate policy to blame the performers and focus on things that have nothing to do with reality. Only managers can make decisions, and if they make bad ones, then projects fail, whether they are in the US or India. Don't blame the workers, they are hired by managers. If the manager didn't hire the right people, how can you blame the worker? -t- Data Cruncher wrote: > On Jun 19, 8:04 am, Tool <t...@thetool.com> wrote: > >> All the issues and arguments about outsourcing are just >> superficial. Under the skin lies one simple truth, it's >> all about greed. > > This may be true, but what is clearly not true is > the implication from your earlier comment that > outsourcing is doom to fail. A more racist > implication can be that it is bound to fail > because indians are doing it. > > It is not a coincidence that all those who diss > outsourcing are the ones whose livelihood > depend on IT jobs remaining in US. Hey I > too live here. In an utopian world I would like > all IT jobs of US to remain here. But that doesn't > mean I start a false propaganda war against > outsourcing. That would be worse than Oracle > marketing :-) > > Fact is, overwhelming majority of IT projects in > US fail, and have been failing long before outsourcing > to india started. heck, even the product mentioned > in the name of this newsgroup is one big example > of failure. The only difference is that in case of failed > outsourced projects, it becomes easy to blame > someone in India. > >