Re: Java and NC

david@go5.com (David W Chan) wrote: :Nils.Myklebust@idg.no (Nils Myklebust) wrote: : :>Also look at www.iona.com for CORBA (reasonably prices as opposed to :>some others), www.thoughtinc.com for very interesting middelware class :>library whic will be integrated with several dev.tools., of course :>cafe.symantec.com for Visual Cafe and a pletora of other tools, :>libraries and applications where one startingplace is www.gamelan.com : :I'm not sure I want to use CORBA directly. I would rather use a tool :which totally encapsulates CORBA underneath. There were a few :articles in the press recently that said that companies have :successfully implemented CORBA projects but in hindsight they would :not do it again because the integration work they had to do meant that :they ended up with something that was difficult to maintain. Some of :them have now moved to Forte because it is cheaper than trying to do :it yourself. I haven't studied CORBA enough yet to realy know about this. From the spesifications alone it seems to me that CORBA is at least as hard as you imply here. However it also seems that a lot of things are happening in the CORBA camp so I will continue to study the issues involved and see if CORBA plus some tool as you mention, to make it easy to use can possibly be an answer. Some have said that the Caffeine product from Visiginic may be a solution. I know very litle about it yet. Where the articles you mentioned describing use of CORBA and Java or CORBA with some other language? And was it a Java implementation of CORBA or one made in and for C++? From spesifications alone it seems there are several differences in these cases in ease of use. I am still evaluating all this, and would like to here any further information anyone can come up with. You are of course not required to use CORBA with Java as there are several other options that may work well. A large number of companies are continously coming out with all kinds of new products that can be used with Java. It's a difficult issue to deal with of course, as all products are new, and we want to use something that will be available and usefull in the long term. If you compare Java to products like Delphi, PowerBuilder, Visual Basic or even NewEra, CORBA hardly enters the picture at all. You would make client applications in the same way as has been done with those products so far, using JDBC only to connect directly to the database. One beauty of Java is that this can be used for server side batch programs as well, programming in the same language. It's only when you want true application partitioning that CORBA or other solutions must be evaluated. :>:Their VJ++ tool and :>:AFC class library shows that they are taking Java seriously although :>:surprisingly, VJ++ can't produce a Windows EXE (yet). : :>I wouldn't touch the AFC class library if it can at all be avoided. :>This may be made into the major attack on Java and it's portability by :>Microsoft. : :Yes. That is why they are serious about Java. In 5 years time, they :want the average programmer to think that Java comes from them not :Sun. : :David : : :David W Chan :GO5 Limited :david@go5.com (work) :dwc@cix.compulink.co.uk (home) Nils.Myklebust@idg.no NM Data AS, P.O.Box 9090 Gronland, N-0133 Oslo, Norway My opinions are those of my company The Informix FAQ is at http://www.iiug.org