Re: IDS to DB2 conversion
I swore to myself I wouldn't post here again but what the heck. Andy, I got that impression from your post that you think somehow DB2 could not be a viable choice in the future for companies that are currently using Informix. What exactly will they migrate to? They WILL have to migrate at some point. And will they go off in an emotional huff and pick something to spite IBM? I find that hard to believe, and having mythical proportions. What are their choices? In this market making the wrong choice could have serious consequences for everyone but you already know that. After a careful review of DB2 features, what is it about DB2 that you find so undesirable that you could not switch to DB2 from Informix? I'm curious if there is something I should know. Have you done some kind of balance sheet basics with each relevant vendor on the list, and produce reasons why you could or could not pick each vendor as a choice to migrate from Informix? Let's say the short-list includes the following vendors: Sybase SQL-Server MySQL DB2 Oracle I can tell you I went through this process and after serious investigation and thorough use of ALL of the above products I know the reasons why I would or would not pick any of the above products as part of an enterprise database selection process. I won't share my findings here, but I will tell you as painful as it is to learn outside the Informix box, it has become quite rewarding to learn what the options are. You might be surprised to learn just where Informix stacks up amongst the others by going through this NOW, not at the final last gasp and then the sheet is pulled over the head. Any company that has to migrate and take it serious may surprise you with their choice(s). Don't be surprised when management picks what you would not. In that regard I have yet to see any reason why DB2 would be a bad choice when compared with other products on the market. But if there's something I should know, please share it with us, I'm curious! Don't be shy. Or email me off-line and let me know if you can't post here. BTW I do not work for IBM or any vendor nor do I get paid to endorse products of any kind from anyone anywhere at all ever no kidding serious. Thanks, Tim
Tim Schaefer wrote: > I swore to myself I wouldn't post here again but what > the heck. > > Andy, > > I got that impression from your post that you think > somehow DB2 could not be a viable choice in the future > for companies that are currently using Informix. What > exactly will they migrate to? They WILL have to migrate > at some point. And will they go off in an emotional > huff and pick something to spite IBM? I find that hard > to believe, and having mythical proportions. What are > their choices? In this market making the wrong choice > could have serious consequences for everyone but you > already know that. > > After a careful review of DB2 features, what is it > about DB2 that you find so undesirable that you could > not switch to DB2 from Informix? I'm curious if there > is something I should know. > > Have you done some kind of balance sheet basics with > each relevant vendor on the list, and produce reasons > why you could or could not pick each vendor as a choice > to migrate from Informix? > > Let's say the short-list includes the following vendors: > > Sybase > SQL-Server > MySQL > DB2 > Oracle > > I can tell you I went through this process and after > serious investigation and thorough use of ALL of the > above products I know the reasons why I would or would > not pick any of the above products as part of an > enterprise database selection process. I won't share > my findings here, but I will tell you as painful as it > is to learn outside the Informix box, it has become > quite rewarding to learn what the options are. You > might be surprised to learn just where Informix stacks > up amongst the others by going through this NOW, not at > the final last gasp and then the sheet is pulled over the > head. > > Any company that has to migrate and take it serious may > surprise you with their choice(s). Don't be surprised > when management picks what you would not. In that regard > I have yet to see any reason why DB2 would be a bad choice > when compared with other products on the market. But if > there's something I should know, please share it with us, > I'm curious! Don't be shy. Or email me off-line and let > me know if you can't post here. > > BTW I do not work for IBM or any vendor nor do I get > paid to endorse products of any kind from anyone anywhere > at all ever no kidding serious. Here where we still drive on the wrong side of the road... http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/53/35001.html -- the database section was particularly interesting. -- "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ''' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche
"Tim Schaefer" <tim@spamethnot.com> wrote in message news:xxDTb.87586$524.1015@fe09.usenetserver.com... > I swore to myself I wouldn't post here again but what > the heck. > > Andy, > > I got that impression from your post that you think > somehow DB2 could not be a viable choice in the future > for companies that are currently using Informix. What > exactly will they migrate to? They WILL have to migrate > at some point. And will they go off in an emotional > huff and pick something to spite IBM? I find that hard > to believe, and having mythical proportions. What are > their choices? In this market making the wrong choice > could have serious consequences for everyone but you > already know that. > In that regard > I have yet to see any reason why DB2 would be a bad choice > when compared with other products on the market. But if > there's something I should know, please share it with us, > I'm curious! Well, since you ask ... The evidence of the eyes of many on here is that Informix customers are already migrating in substantial numbers. It doesn't matter exactly how great the attrition rate is. And, if you have been following the debate, you'll know the number of sites that anyone can name that have chosen to move to DB2 is utterly negligible. In fact, Santa Clara University is the only one anyone can mention, although I believe that there is a European site that is being given huge inducements to make the move too. So, given the current all-but-universal level of indifference towards DB2 as a possible migration path, why should we assume that this is suddenly about to change?
"Tim Schaefer" <tim@spamethnot.com> wrote in message news:xxDTb.87586$524.1015@fe09.usenetserver.com... > I swore to myself I wouldn't post here again but what > the heck. > > Andy, > > I got that impression from your post that you think > somehow DB2 could not be a viable choice in the future > for companies that are currently using Informix. What > exactly will they migrate to? They WILL have to migrate > at some point. And will they go off in an emotional > huff and pick something to spite IBM? And while we're at it, let's speculate at some of the possible reasons: - Antipathy towards IBM because they have killed off Informix, which the company presumably invested in in the first place for good reasons? - DB2's reputation as a mainframe database in the markets in which Informix is, or was, strong? - The desire to avoid repeating the mistake of choosing one of the minor databases in the marketplace? - Third-party vendor indifference to DB2 Finally, have you tried doing business with IBM? You wouldn't bother unless you absolutely *had* too ....