OT: Interesting Aricle "The Problem with Informix"
Not a technical support thread — it's a discussion of an it-analysis.com opinion piece, "The Problem with Informix," about IBM's handling of the product after acquiring it. Posters agree the article captures IBM's awkward position, swap anecdotes (one user was pushed to migrate to DB2, dropped a doubled-price support contract but kept Informix, and later got a cold call from IBM asking whether he still used it), joke about IBM's left and right hands, and argue the acquisition still beat Informix's likely fate otherwise. No problem is solved; it's commentary only.
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Hi All , Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head as far I can see. http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 Enjoy reading. No Flame wars just glad to see Informix in the news. Traveller
"Traveller2003" <vavavoom_th14@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message news:6e21e513.0410190249.3af16980@posting.google.com... > Hi All , > > Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head > as far I can see. > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 > > Enjoy reading. No Flame wars just glad to see Informix in the news. > > Traveller Excellent find, and not at all off-topic (as your subject title suggests) I'd say. I agree that it seems to sum up perfectly the absurdity of the position into which IBM has got itself. Interestingly the author works for Bloor, who produced a year or so ago a review of Informix users' attitudes so favourable towards IBM that it was greeted with open-mouthed incredulity by IBM users, partners and employees alike.
"Traveller2003" <vavavoom_th14@yahoo.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:6e21e513.0410190249.3af16980@posting.google.com... > Hi All , > > Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head > as far I can see. > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 > > Enjoy reading. No Flame wars just glad to see Informix in the news. > > Traveller Very Interesting. Last week I got a call from IBM (I was very surprised!), asking if we still use our Informix DB. IBM was very pleased to hear that we still do. If I remember the time short after IBM bought Informix... I once got a call with a young Lady trying to convince us to kick Informix and switch to DB2. I asked here for 1.5Million DM to rewrite our applications. That was this call. Later on they almost doubled the support contract price. I kicked the support contract, but stayed with Informix. So: it's nice to recognize that IBM is able to learn. Joerg Happy Informix User since 4.x in 1994
Traveller2003 wrote: > Hi All , > > Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head > as far I can see. > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 Awesome! I can't get over the sight of a flying pig! -- Strewth! Stick a sock in it, Sheila!
"Joerg Volz" <joerg@microplus.de> wrote in message news:41753a5e$1@news.punkt.de... > > "Traveller2003" <vavavoom_th14@yahoo.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > news:6e21e513.0410190249.3af16980@posting.google.com... > > Hi All , > > > > Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head > > as far I can see. > > > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 > > > > Enjoy reading. No Flame wars just glad to see Informix in the news. > > > > Traveller > > Very Interesting. > > Last week I got a call from IBM (I was very surprised!), asking if we still > use our Informix DB. IBM was very pleased to hear that we still do. I guess IBM called to ask this question because, as you have allowed support to lapse, they have no way of knowing if you still use Informix?
"Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:2tkukuF21jcpcU1@uni-berlin.de... > "Joerg Volz" <joerg@microplus.de> wrote in message > news:41753a5e$1@news.punkt.de... > > > > "Traveller2003" <vavavoom_th14@yahoo.co.uk> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > > news:6e21e513.0410190249.3af16980@posting.google.com... > > > Hi All , > > > > > > Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head > > > as far I can see. > > > > > > http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 > > > > > > Enjoy reading. No Flame wars just glad to see Informix in the news. > > > > > > Traveller > > > > Very Interesting. > > > > Last week I got a call from IBM (I was very surprised!), asking if we > still > > use our Informix DB. IBM was very pleased to hear that we still do. > > I guess IBM called to ask this question because, as you have allowed support > to lapse, they have no way of knowing if you still use Informix? > > Yes, that was right. But I was still surprised because it is more then two years since kicking the support. But: They did not know (or realize?) that we are also working with a new purchased Online 9.x on Linux since a year and paying support.... Sometimes I think the right hand does never know what the left hand is doing. ;-)
Joerg Volz wrote: > > Yes, that was right. But I was still surprised because it is more then two > years since kicking the support. But: They did not know (or realize?) that > we are also working with a new purchased Online 9.x on Linux since a year > and paying support.... > Sometimes I think the right hand does never know what the left hand is > doing. ;-) In IBMs case I suspect that the possibility of the existence of a left hand being suspected by the right hand is vanishingly small
On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 17:21:18 +0100, My Name Is Bruce and I'm A Sock Puppet <godzone@downundah.com> wrote: >Traveller2003 wrote: > >> Hi All , >> >> Came across an article which I think kinda hits the nail on the head >> as far I can see. >> >> http://www.it-analysis.com/article.php?articleid=12334 > >Awesome! I can't get over the sight of a flying pig! Of course, it remains to be seen what IBM will do . . . from what I've heard lately, I feel a bit better . . . JWC
"Clive Eisen" <clive@serendipita.com> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:4175838c$0$27538$db0fefd9@news.zen.co.uk... > Joerg Volz wrote: > > > > Yes, that was right. But I was still surprised because it is more then two > > years since kicking the support. But: They did not know (or realize?) that > > we are also working with a new purchased Online 9.x on Linux since a year > > and paying support.... > > Sometimes I think the right hand does never know what the left hand is > > doing. ;-) > In IBMs case I suspect that the possibility of the existence of a left > hand being suspected by the right hand is vanishingly small How are slot machines in Vegas named: One armed bandits? :-)
Captain Pedantic wrote: > "Traveller2003" <vavavoom_th14@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message > news:6e21e513.0410190249.3af16980@posting.google.com... > [SNIP] > Interestingly the author works for Bloor, who produced a year or so ago a > review of Informix users' attitudes so favourable towards IBM that it was > greeted with open-mouthed incredulity by IBM users, partners and employees > alike. > > I don't think that the opinion has changed much since the take-over. You have to consider the alternatives. Ascential was selling off the database because PG and everyone thought the DB wars were over and Informix lost. Looking at Sybase, they lost focus on their core product and because of that, they will never be thought of as a first tier player, and soon to be a footnote in history. That would have been the fate of Informix had not someone with the deep pockets of IBM snatched Informix at a bargin price. (Informix was a steal!) The acquistion by IBM made sense, albeit I don't think IBM knew exactly what they were getting. I don't think that IBM thought out why Informix's Loyal customer base was so loyal, especially after White/Finocchio/Dexmier's fsck ups. But hey, what do I know?