RE: IBM-Sun takeover talks 'collapse'

> > >> On a side note, we know that Cisco embeds Informix IDS in to some of > >> their solutions. Where does Java fit into the scheme of things? > > Yes, we know that from all the advertising and PR that IBM does about it. > > There's a couple of things... when a partner company embeds IDS in to their products, I'm not sure that an accurate license count occurs. Perhaps there is > something like a units of X shipped, but those numbers tend to be quiet because the partner company supports IDS for *their* customers and maybe purchases > a premiere/premium services from IBM to back fill their team. AFAIK, Cisco keeps track of what it sells. I have not noted IBM mentioning names of clients for quite some time, perhaps it is a policy. Cisco does not actually support the IDS product, that is pushed off to IBM, but then the customer doesn't know that an issue is with IDS or with the software and winds up on Cisco's support infrastructure anyway. After treage that may wind up over at IBM. The most notorious of those cases is setting up the ODBC driver (not an IDS issue at all), and is handled in the treage stage before ever getting to IBM. To date I know of no IDS issues that have required IBM support in the field, but then the Cisco dev and QA processes are very rigorous and liable to find and correct most issues before they escape the lab. I'm not a java junkie and won't speak to that. j.