Re: Excellent future for DB2

Let me tell you something. Customers just don't carelessly spend money to the point where they are willing to waste it. Most of the time, they do a very thorough ongoing analysis of the costs and feasibility of different platforms for their applications ... it is not a simple matter of perceptions. If the mainframe didn't have a compelling value statement and compelling financial benefits, IBM wouldn't still be selling so many of them and DB2 wouldn't still be growing on that platform. Larry E. Bob Jones wrote: >>While I can understand where you are coming from when you say many people >>feel that mainframes are "dated", that doesn't drive the rdbms business. > > > I do feel sorry if this is how my message was interpretated. > > >>Perception of value and of the most suitable platform to run a database on >>is what drives customer investment. Many customers to this day still feel >>that the mainframe is the best place for apps that require the ultimate in >>security, availability, reliability, and performance. That is the reason >>that we still see growth on mainframe platforms. >> > > > I agree it is just perceptions. Mainframe being the only place to get RAS is > one of them. Funny you talked about performance. The cost/performance > picture is not exactly pretty on mainframe, when compared to x86 or RISC > platforms. Yes, there is growth in mainframe. In fact, there is growth in > virtually all platforms. The unit sales per year for mainframe is measured > in thousands, while other major server platforms are measured in millions. > >

Yes, IBM sells thousands of mainframes per year, that is "so many". > Let me tell you something. Customers just don't carelessly spend money to > the point where they are willing to waste it. Most of the time, they do a > very thorough ongoing analysis of the costs and feasibility of different > platforms for their applications ... it is not a simple matter of > perceptions. If the mainframe didn't have a compelling value statement and > compelling financial benefits, IBM wouldn't still be selling so many of > them and DB2 wouldn't still be growing on that platform. > > Larry E. > > Bob Jones wrote: >>>While I can understand where you are coming from when you say many people >>>feel that mainframes are "dated", that doesn't drive the rdbms business. >> >> >> I do feel sorry if this is how my message was interpretated. >> >> >>>Perception of value and of the most suitable platform to run a database >>>on is what drives customer investment. Many customers to this day still >>>feel that the mainframe is the best place for apps that require the >>>ultimate in security, availability, reliability, and performance. That is >>>the reason that we still see growth on mainframe platforms. >>> >> >> >> I agree it is just perceptions. Mainframe being the only place to get RAS >> is one of them. Funny you talked about performance. The cost/performance >> picture is not exactly pretty on mainframe, when compared to x86 or RISC >> platforms. Yes, there is growth in mainframe. In fact, there is growth in >> virtually all platforms. The unit sales per year for mainframe is >> measured in thousands, while other major server platforms are measured in >> millions. >>