IIUG / IDUG 2007 - North America: Top Ten Reasons To Attend!
Despite the subject line, this thread contains no Informix technical content. A poster responded to an IIUG/IDUG 2007 conference promotion with a complaint about the cost of US visas and hostile treatment of UK visitors at US immigration post-9/11. The replies descended into a political flame war about the Bush administration, religion, elections and Europe-vs-US sniping, with one participant asking that politics be taken elsewhere. No technical problem is raised and no resolution is recorded.
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Here, courtesy of Viz Top Tips, is one top reason *not* to go: US GOVERNMENT Repay the millions of pounds, all the lives of British soldiers and the embarrassment of everyone supporting the US invasion of Iraq by increasing the cost of paperwork needed for UK citizens to visit your country for 4 days to $600, then make them wait half a day at immigration and treat them like shit. Underline the irony of the situation by repeatedly banging on about how the USA has no truer friend than Great Britain.
Where are the $600 coming from? You need a visa now?! Anyway, I would probably not define the Colony as "truer friend". > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- > bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Captain Pedantic > Sent: mercredi 11 avril 2007 22:57 > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: IIUG / IDUG 2007 - North America: Top Ten Reasons To Attend! > > Here, courtesy of Viz Top Tips, is one top reason *not* to go: > > US GOVERNMENT Repay the millions of pounds, all the lives of British > soldiers and the embarrassment of everyone supporting the US invasion > of > Iraq by increasing the cost of paperwork needed for UK citizens to > visit > your country for 4 days to $600, then make them wait half a day at > immigration and treat them like shit. Underline the irony of the > situation > by repeatedly banging on about how the USA has no truer friend than > Great > Britain. > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Kind of shallow and stupid don't you think? The American public are not all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. We don't like it any more than you do. The US Govt isn't treating you any worse than they already treat their own citizens. We do have one saving grace, term limits, which will ultimately get rid of king George and all his ultra-right-wing religious retards and other paranoid sexually repressed control freaks who have fucked up our country for the past 7 years. Be patient, we'll have a change next year hopefully for the better. In the meantime, worry about your own back yard, and get rid of the religious morons from the middle east that are spreading hate everywhere in Europe. Captain Pedantic wrote: > Here, courtesy of Viz Top Tips, is one top reason *not* to go: > > US GOVERNMENT Repay the millions of pounds, all the lives of British > soldiers and the embarrassment of everyone supporting the US invasion of > Iraq by increasing the cost of paperwork needed for UK citizens to visit > your country for 4 days to $600, then make them wait half a day at > immigration and treat them like shit. Underline the irony of the situation > by repeatedly banging on about how the USA has no truer friend than Great > Britain. > >
Tool wrote: > religious retards and other paranoid sexually repressed control freaks who > have fucked up our country for the past 7 years. Be patient, we'll have a > change next year hopefully for the better. In the meantime, worry about > your > own back yard, and get rid of the religious morons from the middle east > that > are spreading hate everywhere in Europe. And IYHO would they be moronic for being religious or moronic for be of the wrong religious flavour? -- Clive
>The American public are not >all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. Sorry Tool, we were basing our assumptions on your mails. :-)
I think I specified the religious morons that are spreading hate. ;-) Different from the religious morons that are running our government. Clive Eisen wrote: > Tool wrote: >> religious retards and other paranoid sexually repressed control freaks who >> have fucked up our country for the past 7 years. Be patient, we'll have a >> change next year hopefully for the better. In the meantime, worry about >> your >> own back yard, and get rid of the religious morons from the middle east >> that >> are spreading hate everywhere in Europe. > > And IYHO would they be moronic for being religious or moronic for be of > the wrong religious flavour? >
Maelwys Filidh wrote: >> The American public are not >> all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. > > Sorry Tool, we were basing our assumptions on your mails. > > :-) > > Fair enough. And I was basing mine on whiners from Europe. :-)
"Tool" <tool@thetool.com> wrote in message news:BqMTh.35060$9o.31993@fe26.usenetserver.com... > Kind of shallow and stupid don't you think? The American public are not > all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. We don't like > it any more than you do. The US Govt isn't treating you any worse than > they > already treat their own citizens. We do have one saving grace, term > limits, > which will ultimately get rid of king George and all his ultra-right-wing > religious retards and other paranoid sexually repressed control freaks who > have fucked up our country for the past 7 years. Be patient, we'll have a > change next year hopefully for the better. In the meantime, worry about > your > own back yard, and get rid of the religious morons from the middle east > that > are spreading hate everywhere in Europe. I was making a narrower point about how, post 9/11, the United States Immigration Service has become even more hostile, contemptuous and unwelcoming ... even to citizens of countries such as the UK that have paid such a heavy price for their governments' support on the "War on Terror". Don't take my word for it though. http://www.ttnworldwide.com/bkArticlesF.asp?Article=6307&Section=833&IssueID=272
On Apr 13, 7:27 am, Tool <t...@thetool.com> wrote: > Kind of shallow and stupid don't you think? The American public are not > all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. Not all, but a very large percentage. Heck, the most popular show now is "are you smarter than a fifth grader?" (or something like that) and most contestants obviously are not. But, it is the same in most countries - most of the people are ignorant. > We don't like it any more than you do. "We" is not most of the American population. Arguably, most of the voters in the last election. > The US Govt isn't treating you any worse than they already treat their own citizens. With the exception of the wealthy Republican population. How many times were Al Gore and Ted Kennedy held for extra screenings? > We do have one saving grace, term limits, > which will ultimately get rid of king George and all his ultra-right-wing > religious retards and other paranoid sexually repressed control freaks who > have fucked up our country for the past 7 years. Be patient, we'll have a > change next year hopefully for the better. You can argue if Bush stole the 2000 elections or not, since more than Al Gore got a million votes more than Bush. But in 2003, where Bush received over three million votes than Kerry. Don't bet that the American population will not vote for a different "ultra-right-wing religious retard". Besides, democrats can screw things up just as bad as Republicans. > In the meantime, worry about your own back yard, and get rid of the religious morons from the middle east that > are spreading hate everywhere in Europe. Are you referring to Muslims, Christians (Skin-heads), both or others? And after this rant, could you please discuss politics somewhere else? Zachi
Tool said: > > Maelwys Filidh wrote: >>> The American public are not >>> all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. >> >> Sorry Tool, we were basing our assumptions on your mails. >> >> :-) >> >> > > Fair enough. And I was basing mine on whiners from Europe. How long till someone mentions WW2? -- Bye now, Obnoxio "I'm astonished anyone pays real money for this crap." -- Cosmo -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by OpenProtect(http://www.openprotect.com), and is believed to be clean.
Tool wrote: > Kind of shallow and stupid don't you think? The American public are not > all ignorant peasants who don't understand what's going on. So just the one, then ...