Re: Announcing: The IBM Customer Advisory Council for Informix

Neil Truby wrote: >>OK, so we should all just shut up? SHOW ME THE MONEY. SHOW ME THE >>ADVERTISING. >>SHOW ME THE MARKETING. SHOW ME THE NEW CUSTOMER WINS. > > > I received an order for IDS from a brand new customer to Informix (and IBM I > believe) this very morning ... Great. Any others? Not to dismiss this ... it is what will keep Informix from sinking. What we want to see is an indication that there are enough new licenses being sold so that IBM C-level management takes note. Is that happening? -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

>From: DA Morgan <damorgan@psoug.org> >To: informix-list@iiug.org >Subject: Re: Announcing: The IBM Customer Advisory Council for Informix >Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:50:31 -0800 > >Neil Truby wrote: > >>OK, so we should all just shut up? SHOW ME THE MONEY. SHOW ME THE > >>ADVERTISING. > >>SHOW ME THE MARKETING. SHOW ME THE NEW CUSTOMER WINS. > > > > > > I received an order for IDS from a brand new customer to Informix (and >IBM I > > believe) this very morning ... > >Great. Any others? Not to dismiss this ... it is what will keep Informix >from sinking. What we want to see is an indication that there are enough >new licenses being sold so that IBM C-level management takes note. Is >that happening? Who is "we"? Why do you(plural) care? Frankly I'm tired of your trolling in this group. Your database of choice is Oracle. We all know that by now. You have nothing at stake. Oracle isn't going away any time soon, nor is DB2, nor Informix. Well maybe IBM database products are the only thing keeping Oracle pricing down. Get back on your pathetic, tecnically inferior, marketing superior Oracle bandwagon and go home. You have nothing of worth to add to this forum! >-- >Daniel A. Morgan >http://www.psoug.org >damorgan@x.washington.edu >(replace x with u to respond) >_______________________________________________ >Informix-list mailing list >Informix-list@iiug.org >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list

Barry dude, what's with that. Daniel is as welcome here as you. And you should be thanking him for contributing instead of trying to run him off. Who knows who he knows, maybe he can provide influence for change. It's a small world, let's encourage participation in the discussion, not running people out of here. While I don't always agree with what he says, and he doesn't always agree with me, he **has** said a lot of great things regarding Informix--and coming from an Oracle guy this is really good stuff. Even Mark T. has been supportive, you should really be more tolerant. Shame on you. And Daniel is always polite, something few of us including me find very hard to be. Barry Leb wrote: >> From: DA Morgan <damorgan@psoug.org> >> To: informix-list@iiug.org >> Subject: Re: Announcing: The IBM Customer Advisory Council for Informix >> Date: Thu, 09 Feb 2006 08:50:31 -0800 >> >> Neil Truby wrote: >> >>OK, so we should all just shut up? SHOW ME THE MONEY. SHOW ME THE >> >>ADVERTISING. >> >>SHOW ME THE MARKETING. SHOW ME THE NEW CUSTOMER WINS. >> > >> > >> > I received an order for IDS from a brand new customer to Informix >> (and IBM I >> > believe) this very morning ... >> >> Great. Any others? Not to dismiss this ... it is what will keep Informix >> from sinking. What we want to see is an indication that there are enough >> new licenses being sold so that IBM C-level management takes note. Is >> that happening? > > Who is "we"? Why do you(plural) care? Frankly I'm tired of your > trolling in this group. Your database of choice is Oracle. We all know > that by now. You have nothing at stake. Oracle isn't going away any > time soon, nor is DB2, nor Informix. Well maybe IBM database products > are the only thing keeping Oracle pricing down. Get back on your > pathetic, tecnically inferior, marketing superior Oracle bandwagon and > go home. You have nothing of worth to add to this forum! >

Double Echo said: > > Daniel is as welcome here as you. What's Barry done wrong? -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche did i mention i like nulls? heck, i even go so far as to say that all columns in a table except the primary key could/should be nullable. this has certain advantages, for example, if you need to insert a child record and you don't have a parent row for it, just do an insert into the parent table with the primary key value (everything else null), and voila, relational integrity is preserved. but this is, admittedly, a bit controversial among modellers. --r937, dbforums.com

Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Double Echo said: >> Daniel is as welcome here as you. > > What's Barry done wrong? > Barry's diaper spilled out the side, it was messy.

Double Echo wrote: > Barry dude, what's with that. Daniel is as welcome here as you. And you > should be thanking him for contributing instead of trying to run him off. > Who knows who he knows, maybe he can provide influence for change. It's > a small world, let's encourage participation in the discussion, not running > people out of here. While I don't always agree with what he says, and he > doesn't always agree with me, he **has** said a lot of great things > regarding > Informix--and coming from an Oracle guy this is really good stuff. Even > Mark T. has been supportive, you should really be more tolerant. Shame on > you. And Daniel is always polite, something few of us including me find > very hard to be. DE, You crack me up man... Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development DB2 UDB for Linux, Unix, Windows IBM Toronto Lab

Barry Leb wrote: > Who is "we"? We is an advisory committee working on database curricula at a university. If you, meaning Informix, want to be successful here are the rules of the game. 1. Most organizations have mixed environments with databases from IBM, Microsoft, and Oracle. 2. Not everyone considers the products of a for-profit corporation a matter of nationalism or religion. 3. Not everyone that uses one product wishes the other to crash and burn in flames. 4. Not everyone that primarily uses one product doesn't also simultaneously use other products on other projects. 5. Dump the attitude. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

Double Echo wrote: > Barry dude, what's with that. Daniel is as welcome here as you. And you > should be thanking him for contributing instead of trying to run him off. > Who knows who he knows, maybe he can provide influence for change. It's > a small world, let's encourage participation in the discussion, not running > people out of here. While I don't always agree with what he says, and he > doesn't always agree with me, he **has** said a lot of great things > regarding > Informix--and coming from an Oracle guy this is really good stuff. Even > Mark T. has been supportive, you should really be more tolerant. Shame on > you. And Daniel is always polite, something few of us including me find > very hard to be. Thanks Double. Some of us that work with Oracle world work with multiple products and many of us consider Informix an old friend and don't want to see it in the boneyard. -- Daniel A. Morgan http://www.psoug.org damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace x with u to respond)

DA Morgan said: > > 5. Dump the attitude. Fuck you, and the sanctimonious ass you rode in on. Arrogant fuck monkey. -- Bye now, Obnoxio "C'est pas parce qu'on n'a rien ' dire qu'il faut fermer sa gueule" - Coluche did i mention i like nulls? heck, i even go so far as to say that all columns in a table except the primary key could/should be nullable. this has certain advantages, for example, if you need to insert a child record and you don't have a parent row for it, just do an insert into the parent table with the primary key value (everything else null), and voila, relational integrity is preserved. but this is, admittedly, a bit controversial among modellers. --r937, dbforums.com