Re: IDS 10 Download?

Data Goob wrote: > Clustering offsets the need for 28-CPUs for most customers, and allows > commodity hardware choices instead of proprietary solutions--including > IBM. The market that actually needs 28-CPUs are now returning > to the mainframe. My customers aren't - Informix doesn't run on a mainframe, they are buying large CPU servers > And our friends at IBM are loving it. x86 gets very > pricey when you go beyond a 4-CPU machine. But consider the AMD Opteron > and you can get very fast for very cheap if you cluster. Even Dell is > headed for AMD, and who knows may get Power before too long. Apple > is doing pretty nice with the Power chip, it screams compared to an x86 > system. IBM even offers the Opteron at a very affordable price, and > clustering with it can be very cost effective. > > The new Power series from IBM has put them in the lead again with micro > partitioning the Power5 into a mini-mainframe for about the same price as > a conventional 4-CPU x86 box--a big market. Sun can't even come close in > performance per CPU. They have had to practically give away everything > just to keep themselves in the game. > > It's also important to consider that because of the rapid pace of change > in the computer hardware market not to box yourself in by buying or leasing > something that may end up being a boat anchor in six months to a year. > > Better to buy cheap, commodity hardware, and get the OS for next to > nothing, > and then if possible get the apps the same way, paying mostly for the > professional services. Sun knows IBM is heading this direction and doesn't > really have much to offer compared to IBM's Power chip. IBM is probably 5 > years ahead of Sun or HP on hardware now. IBM is back in the driver's seat > not only on hardware but also on the OS and software. > > > > > Paul Watson wrote: > >> In my experience Linux doesn't run on 28 CPU boxes, in fact I had >> enough problems with an 8-way but in fairness to the Linux vendor they >> did their damnedest to get it to work, going as far as producing a >> unique micro-kernel for me. >> >> >> Data Goob wrote: >> >>> Yes really. >>> >>> Name one thing Solaris has that is so important that you have to have >>> Solaris and can't do what you want with Linux or perhaps AIX. If you >>> need a real-time UNIX, there may be something out there for the niche >>> market, but Sun really has little to offer that is significant enough >>> to buy their stuff instead of open system offerings. >>> >>> Sun has trouble in other areas besides their totally irrelevant OS, they >>> are way behind the curve on their processors, which pale in >>> comparison to >>> the new Power series from IBM. Sun also swore they wouldn't do so many >>> things--and now they are now doing, and even sucking up to Microsoft >>> just >>> to try to get some market relevance. Even Java is up for grabs as >>> the open >>> source community is even going after Java in an open source version. >>> Sun >>> is done. >>> >>> And HP, they really need to just give up on computers and stick to >>> printers. >>> Carly should have gone out on top, but er, well, anyway that's fodder >>> for >>> the clown... >>> >>> Paul Watson wrote: >>> >>>> Really :-) >>>> >>>> Data Goob wrote: >>>> >>>>> Solaris is ceasing to be relevant. >>>>> >>>>> Soon it will be in the same boat as SCO, as well as HP/UX. >>>>> >>>>> Paul Watson wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No Solaris though, bit of a bummer >>>>>> >>>>>> Neil Truby wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> "Data Goob" <datagoob@netscape.net> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:hsqUd.231$Sw2.154@text.usenetserver.com... >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> So........... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There's no download for IDS 10 unless you use PassPort Advantage? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Very Interesting... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What happened to pushing things out to developers? I can get >>>>>>>> Sybase ASE 12.5 or DB2, where's Informix? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Guess all that bs about Informix living on and being great was >>>>>>>> just that... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you visit www.informix.com , on the right-hand side, under >>>>>>> "Highlights", there's a link to a trial download of IDS. After >>>>>>> you've jumped through the hoops there are downloads available for >>>>>>> IDS v10 on Linux, Windows and AIX. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > -- Paul Watson # Oninit Ltd # Growing old is mandatory Tel: +44 1436 672201 # Growing up is optional Fax: +44 1436 678693 # Mob: +44 7818 003457 # www.oninit.com #