RE: informix developer tool
Unfortunately while I was growing up, my father stressed upon me the importance of nomenclature. If you don't describe something explicitly and correctly, you can cause bad things to happen. An unintended slip of the tongue or use of a term that may have a slightly different meaning, you can cause someone to miss something and boom, a patient is hurt. So to call C which is a programming language a 'tool' in the context of the question being asked, would be incorrect. A c compiler is a tool that takes your C instruction set aka a program and generates either a bunch of error messages or an executable object. I understood Art's point that there are many ways to build applications that utilize IDS. But the question dealt with programming and access environments like Toad. Anatol's ?sp? tool is probably the best example or DBAccess. I dont' know if Eclipse supports ESQL/C (Or maybe rational does since both DB2 and IDS utilize the language), but Eclipse and NetBeans do support Python, Java, C/C++ So these IDEs could almost meet the initial poster's Needs. Note: I didn't question Art's other products. Only calling these "tools". They're languages and APIs Of course he didn't add Python, Jython, Groovy/Grails, or Ruby/Rails. (Although the database support (From IBM) of Ruby/Rails isn't all that great) These are all languages and "frameworks" that could also be connected to IDS. But hey! I'm not swinging anything around with Art. Just pointing out the importance of calling something right. -G > Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:47:10 +0100 > From: obnoxio@serendipita.com > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: informix developer tool > > Ian Michael Gumby wrote: > > Sorry Art, > > You may call them Tools of the trade. > > > > But nomenclature is important when you need to communicate an idea or > > concept. > Or: "since I don't have anything useful to say, I'll use arbitrary > pedantry in a desperate attempt to win an argument." I get this from my > 12-year-old daughter all the time. > > > > > I'm now having to reverse a script I wrote for production because I > > did what they said they wanted, not what they really wanted. And of > > course, it was a rush job so there wasn't really time to get in to > > their head and you had to trust that they knew what they were saying.... > > > > Yet I digress. > > > There's a first. > > > The point is that these are not tools but 'standard' APIs and Languages. > > > > Its great that you know them, but when someone asks about tools, they > > want the IDEs and environments that let you get your work done. > > Perhaps you should be having a go at the OP for not being precise, too. > > > > -G > > PS. I wasn't the only one who missed the 'red flags'. I'm just the guy > > who has to fix it. ;-) > > God I am starting to hate unicode. > > Stop cock-waving. It's really tedious. > > -- > Cheers, > Obnoxio the Clown > > http://obotheclown.blogspot.com > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _________________________________________________________________ See what people are saying about Windows Live. Check out featured posts. http://www.windowslive.com/connect?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_connect2_082008