Re: Company thought DB2 will be better than Oracle.
On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:46:27 -0400, Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > Darin McBride wrote: > >> In DB2 v8, there is a new feature called the Fault Monitor which can detect a >> crash and restart the server for you automatically. This may alleviate (but >> not eliminate) your problem. > > The database crashes so often they have something that restarts the server? > > I'm sold -- where do I sign the order? Ooo, deja vu! When we last brought the big O in here for a project the Oracle provided consultants set things up so that the instance would try to restart itself every 1/4 hour in case it had crashed and no one noticed. Here we see IBM building such an 'oops' facility into their engine with yet another process. Now that's confidence in your own product! Art S. Kagel
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:43 -0400, "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote: >On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:46:27 -0400, Obnoxio The Clown wrote: > >> Darin McBride wrote: >> >>> In DB2 v8, there is a new feature called the Fault Monitor which can detect a >>> crash and restart the server for you automatically. This may alleviate (but >>> not eliminate) your problem. >> >> The database crashes so often they have something that restarts the server? >> >> I'm sold -- where do I sign the order? > >Ooo, deja vu! When we last brought the big O in here for a project the Oracle >provided consultants set things up so that the instance would try to restart >itself every 1/4 hour in case it had crashed and no one noticed. Here we see >IBM building such an 'oops' facility into their engine with yet another process. > Now that's confidence in your own product! > Was that the engine of the listener for O?
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:00:48 -0400, John Carlson <john_carlson@whsmithusa.com> wrote: >On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:43 -0400, "Art S. Kagel" ><kagel@bloomberg.net> wrote: > >>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:46:27 -0400, Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >> >>> Darin McBride wrote: >>> >>>> In DB2 v8, there is a new feature called the Fault Monitor which can detect a >>>> crash and restart the server for you automatically. This may alleviate (but >>>> not eliminate) your problem. >>> >>> The database crashes so often they have something that restarts the server? >>> >>> I'm sold -- where do I sign the order? >> >>Ooo, deja vu! When we last brought the big O in here for a project the Oracle >>provided consultants set things up so that the instance would try to restart >>itself every 1/4 hour in case it had crashed and no one noticed. Here we see >>IBM building such an 'oops' facility into their engine with yet another process. >> Now that's confidence in your own product! >> > >Was that the engine of the listener for O? Sorry, that should read . . . "Was that the engine or the listener that fell over?"
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:44:06 -0400, John Carlson wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:00:48 -0400, John Carlson <john_carlson@whsmithusa.com> > wrote: > >>On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:43 -0400, "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> >>wrote: >> >>>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:46:27 -0400, Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >>> >>>> Darin McBride wrote: ><SNIP> >>> >>>Ooo, deja vu! When we last brought the big O in here for a project the >>>Oracle provided consultants set things up so that the instance would try to >>>restart itself every 1/4 hour in case it had crashed and no one noticed. Here >>>we see IBM building such an 'oops' facility into their engine with yet >>>another process. >>> Now that's confidence in your own product! >>> >>> >>Was that the engine of the listener for O? > > Sorry, that should read . . . > > "Was that the engine or the listener that fell over?" To be fair to the product, it rarely crashed (though more often than the Informix instance ;-), when it did it was the engine itself, or whatever passes for an engine that the 'start' scripts launch. It was the lack of truct that got me. Art S. Kagel
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 16:11:23 -0400, Art S. Kagel wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:44:06 -0400, John Carlson wrote: > >> On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:00:48 -0400, John Carlson >> <john_carlson@whsmithusa.com> wrote: >> >>>On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 14:50:43 -0400, "Art S. Kagel" <kagel@bloomberg.net> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>On Mon, 15 Sep 2003 19:46:27 -0400, Obnoxio The Clown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Darin McBride wrote: >><SNIP> >>>> >>>>Ooo, deja vu! When we last brought the big O in here for a project the >>>>Oracle provided consultants set things up so that the instance would try to >>>>restart itself every 1/4 hour in case it had crashed and no one noticed. >>>>Here we see IBM building such an 'oops' facility into their engine with yet >>>>another process. >>>> Now that's confidence in your own product! >>>> >>>> >>>Was that the engine of the listener for O? >> >> Sorry, that should read . . . >> >> "Was that the engine or the listener that fell over?" > > To be fair to the product, it rarely crashed (though more often than the > Informix instance ;-), when it did it was the engine itself, or whatever > passes for an engine that the 'start' scripts launch. It was the lack of > truct that got me. But then who can find a good source of 'truct' these days. Arrgghh! That should have been 'trust'. Art S. Kagel