RE: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS?
Fred, Your issue is surely something different. Firewall blocking a port somewhere? jgp -- European Developer Forum - Strasbourg Illkirch - June 12th 2007 - It's free! Register at http://www.developerforum.eu. > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- > bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Fred Pratt > Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 00:33 > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: RE: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS? > > I just downloaded IDS 10 from the IIUG site. I understand that the > engine > has a 5 session limit and that is quite reasonable for an evaluation, > but I > cannot connect to this instance remotely. I'm pretty certain that I > have > configured the engine, etc for remote connectivity (I was a certified > Informix DBA in a previous life), but I jget a 908 when trying to > connect. > Is this engine crippled in this way also? > > Thanks > Fred > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list- > bounces@iiug.org] > On Behalf Of Tool > Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:55 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS? > > No. The IIUG version is an altered product. > > First of all IBM and/or Informix had to exert little effort to get the > crippling into effect, the IIUG was the one ( Stuart specifically ) who > pushed for crippling the engine so that those nefarious freeloaders out > there wouldn't use the > engine in a production environment. This is a red herring, > but there's no convincing the IIUG they know better. It's easy enough > to > see what other vendors have done, so the model is already out there > with > successful--hugely successful--companies allowing their developer pool > to > grow, which as I've stated over the past 15-20 years, is the key to > growing > Informix in the marketplace. Applications drive databases, databases > don't > drive applications. > > Secondly, the other postings regarding this make the point, so I won't > rehash what they said. What the crippling is really about, is an > attempt to > regulate and control the use of the software, and the manufacturer has > of > course every right to do that. But there are better ways to do that, > without impairing the full functionality. I know of several softwares > out > there that use encrypted license keys that prevent the software from > re-installation from one machine to the next, and have a serious > business > relationship with the people that download the software, collecting > enough > information up front to monitor and track the usage. There is already > enough of this as accepted and best practice so I don't need to go into > the > details of how it's done. > > Instead, what would work for everyone is a better license registration > process, that clearly states the rights and penalties for improper use, > and > what the expectations are from the vendor if the software is used in a > production environment. It also requires the vendor to have a real > developer program, not mindless web pages that are run by robots. > There > needs to be a connection with your developer community, one that if I > were > working at IBM I would really develop. But we all know that's probably > never going to happen. :-) There are several vendors out there that > offer > license-key products for software, and registration business models. > But I > would strongly argue that Informix's original strength was in having no > license management software, and a strong developer community that was > largely small shops. It was in the smaller sites where strong > development > came from, which eventually bubbled up into larger corporate customers. > This is exactly what Microsoft has continued to rely on, and why it > requires no further explanation as to its ability to be successful and > grow > the Informix market. > > Developers are the key to the future of the product, and unless IBM et > al > get this point they are spinning their wheels. > > > Carsten Haese wrote: > > On Wed, 2007-05-30 at 10:10 -0700, Tool wrote: > >> [...] I'd want a developer license for the database, > >> at no charge, unlimited time to use it. [...] > > > > Isn't that exactly what the IIUG-offered version is? > > > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list