Re: Gasp - Some Simple Help Please

Hi Alan, We haven't chatted in quite a while, nice to see you come out of your cave. :-) Colonel Panic ( Alan Denny at Informix.com ) wrote: > > In article <3774DFF4.94B28DA2@mindspring.com>, > Tim Schaefer <tschaefe@mindspring.com> wrote: > >This is exactly why Linux is not ready for prime time. I am also > >disappointed in Informix for telling everyone that IDS 7.30 is > >"certified" for 2.2.5 when you cannot even connect to the box. > > Who at Informix told you *that*? > Hi Alan, head to this page please: http://www.informix.com/informix/products/linux/idslx.html > The only 2.2 kernel implementation IDS 7.30 has been certified > for is Red Hat 6.0, which needs NO patching whatsoever. If anyone > told you otherwise, that person was mistaken. > Hi Alan, head to this page please: http://www.informix.com/informix/products/linux/idslx.html > >Perhaps a later kernel two or three years from now will fix > >this connection problem. > > Or perhaps you could download Red Hat 6.0 today. Or fallback to > a 2.0.36 implementation that has package-installable packages > such as Red Hat 5.2 or SuSE 6.0. > Thanks, Alan, but I don't have time to play with Red Hat. Don't get me wrong, I like the folks at Red Hat, and think highly of them, it's just a crappy install. There were too many unknowns as I recall when I went through the 6.0 install. Lots of vagueness, and the lack of good programming skills, making it impossible to return or go back to previous parts of the install. Slackware suffers from this, as well as Caldera. SuSE is about the only one that offers the best installation program. Caldera is coming out with their "Lizard" in the next release, currently you can't go back to fix or change things in their install at all. They force you to reformat your / drive even if all you wanted to do was change the video! You have to go through the whole install all over again. I'm sure they'll change this but for now it's a good idea to practice with it till you get it right. :-) > That's odd. I've installed RH 6.0 on a half-dozen different machines > (encompassing three manufacturers) with NO significant install problems > whatsoever. Care to list some of the problems you had? > It died. I didn't have time to waste with the install. See above. BTW I managed to get things right by downloading and installing 2.2.10 from the kernel.org. The following are working: * 4GL is working * ESQLC is working * ISQL is working * IDS is working * ROM Components with SDK 2.20.tc1.2 , Setnet32 9.20.TC1, ODBC 3.50 * DBexplorer works on Win98 and Win95 connecting to Linux box * SQL Explorer works on Win98 and Win95 connecting to Linux box One problem with IDS: dbschema does not produce dbspace information for a table!!! try dbschema -d mydatabase -ss I can get index dbspaces back but not table dbspaces. Table dbspaces do not show up in the create table syntax. > >IDS 7.3 - RPM forces you to use /opt/informix as the install directory. > > Wrong. That's just the *default*, following Linux standard (and as > specified in the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard, I think). You can > install it anywhere using: > (For Red Hat 6.0+:) > --relocate /opt/informix=/$INFORMIXDIR > (For Red Hat 5.x:) > --prefix=$INFORMIXDIR > > All of which is covered in the rpm man pages. > Yeah, but Alan, I didn't see an example as I recall. I've also found kpackage to be a really nice tool, to deal with RPMs, but if I'm not mistaken you can't change the default--maybe you can with your options above. The point is, as I stated before, RPM is completely unnecessary for Informix installations. Notice how on AIX and HP there is NO RPM. How does one manage without RPM on AIX, or HP? We use TAR! Hello! I've since made my own TAR distributions of all the Linux software to avoid having to mess with RPM. Now when I want to create a tree, I run a script that untars software, goes through the install, and on to the next one. It's a whole lot easier this way than even messing with RPM. Anyone that's any good as an Informix professional can use TAR. It's actually easier to use than RPM, and allows you all the control you need. > If you have strong feelings in this area, I recommend that you email > this (and any other feedback) to linux@informix.com. > All of a sudden you're a politician! LOL! :-) Since you work at Informix, why not take what I've said to the right people, you being one of them, and take care of it. By the way, any timeframe on when the high-performance loader will be available for Linux? Thanks, Tim > -- > Alan Denney yosemite at accesscom.com > -- - -- --- Tim Schaefer ---- tschaefe@mindspring.com --- http://www.inxutil.com -- -