RE: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS?
"Simply giving away a "real deal, production ready" database engine for free won't make any business sense to IBM." IBM does this with DB2 Express-C. Why not a similar version for IDS? Fred -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Carsten Haese Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 1:48 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS? On Tue, 2007-05-29 at 11:18 -0700, Tool wrote: > Yeah but it's a crippled release, isn't replication turned off? Or > some other gotcha that makes it crippled. I want the real deal, and > no timebomb, not some watered down version that isn't production > ready. You can get the real deal. Just ask your friendly IBM salesperson and give them some money. The IIUG version has the following restrictions: 1) Educational purposes only. 2) Up to 5 concurrent sessions. 3) No HADR, ER only as leaf. If you have a business opportunity that needs a feasibility study that can't be done under those restrictions, try asking IBM if they can provide you with a differently licensed evaluation copy. If it makes business sense, they might just do it. Simply giving away a "real deal, production ready" database engine for free won't make any business sense to IBM. Regards, -- Carsten Haese http://informixdb.sourceforge.net _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Fred Pratt wrote: > "Simply giving away a "real deal, production ready" database engine for free > won't make any business sense to IBM." > IBM does this with DB2 Express-C. Why not a similar version for IDS? DB2 Express C doesn't claim to be "turnkey" OLTP. Maybe IDS is a victim of it's success here. Chances are you want support for DB2. Also DB2 Express C now comes with an option for subscription support like mySQL (i.e. you pay $$/year). A company doesn't give away anything of value unless you expect that a good chunk of the users will someone come back and pay in some form or other. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab
Just so I understand... IBM gives away DB2 in the form of DB2 Express C because DB2 is probably not usable for bread-and-butter apps (OLTP) without help from IBM support. IBM does not offer a low end version of IDS for free because the end-user probably will not need support from IBM? Geez, what does this say about DB2 ? Fred -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Serge Rielau Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 3:12 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: Is IBM actually doing something with IDS? Fred Pratt wrote: > "Simply giving away a "real deal, production ready" database engine > for free won't make any business sense to IBM." > IBM does this with DB2 Express-C. Why not a similar version for IDS? DB2 Express C doesn't claim to be "turnkey" OLTP. Maybe IDS is a victim of it's success here. Chances are you want support for DB2. Also DB2 Express C now comes with an option for subscription support like mySQL (i.e. you pay $$/year). A company doesn't give away anything of value unless you expect that a good chunk of the users will someone come back and pay in some form or other. Cheers Serge -- Serge Rielau DB2 Solutions Development IBM Toronto Lab _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list