Re: IDS 10 Download?

Clustering offsets the need for 28-CPUs for most customers, and allows commodity hardware choices instead of proprietary solutions--including IBM. The market that actually needs 28-CPUs are now returning to the mainframe. And our friends at IBM are loving it. x86 gets very pricey when you go beyond a 4-CPU machine. But consider the AMD Opteron and you can get very fast for very cheap if you cluster. Even Dell is headed for AMD, and who knows may get Power before too long. Apple is doing pretty nice with the Power chip, it screams compared to an x86 system. IBM even offers the Opteron at a very affordable price, and clustering with it can be very cost effective. The new Power series from IBM has put them in the lead again with micro partitioning the Power5 into a mini-mainframe for about the same price as a conventional 4-CPU x86 box--a big market. Sun can't even come close in performance per CPU. They have had to practically give away everything just to keep themselves in the game. It's also important to consider that because of the rapid pace of change in the computer hardware market not to box yourself in by buying or leasing something that may end up being a boat anchor in six months to a year. Better to buy cheap, commodity hardware, and get the OS for next to nothing, and then if possible get the apps the same way, paying mostly for the professional services. Sun knows IBM is heading this direction and doesn't really have much to offer compared to IBM's Power chip. IBM is probably 5 years ahead of Sun or HP on hardware now. IBM is back in the driver's seat not only on hardware but also on the OS and software. Paul Watson wrote: > In my experience Linux doesn't run on 28 CPU boxes, in fact I had enough > problems with an 8-way but in fairness to the Linux vendor they did > their damnedest to get it to work, going as far as producing a unique > micro-kernel for me. > > > Data Goob wrote: > >> Yes really. >> >> Name one thing Solaris has that is so important that you have to have >> Solaris and can't do what you want with Linux or perhaps AIX. If you >> need a real-time UNIX, there may be something out there for the niche >> market, but Sun really has little to offer that is significant enough >> to buy their stuff instead of open system offerings. >> >> Sun has trouble in other areas besides their totally irrelevant OS, they >> are way behind the curve on their processors, which pale in comparison to >> the new Power series from IBM. Sun also swore they wouldn't do so many >> things--and now they are now doing, and even sucking up to Microsoft just >> to try to get some market relevance. Even Java is up for grabs as the >> open >> source community is even going after Java in an open source version. Sun >> is done. >> >> And HP, they really need to just give up on computers and stick to >> printers. >> Carly should have gone out on top, but er, well, anyway that's fodder for >> the clown... >> >> Paul Watson wrote: >> >>> Really :-) >>> >>> Data Goob wrote: >>> >>>> Solaris is ceasing to be relevant. >>>> >>>> Soon it will be in the same boat as SCO, as well as HP/UX. >>>> >>>> Paul Watson wrote: >>>> >>>>> No Solaris though, bit of a bummer >>>>> >>>>> Neil Truby wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> "Data Goob" <datagoob@netscape.net> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hsqUd.231$Sw2.154@text.usenetserver.com... >>>>>> >>>>>>> So........... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There's no download for IDS 10 unless you use PassPort Advantage? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Very Interesting... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What happened to pushing things out to developers? I can get >>>>>>> Sybase ASE 12.5 or DB2, where's Informix? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Guess all that bs about Informix living on and being great was >>>>>>> just that... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If you visit www.informix.com , on the right-hand side, under >>>>>> "Highlights", there's a link to a trial download of IDS. After >>>>>> you've jumped through the hoops there are downloads available for >>>>>> IDS v10 on Linux, Windows and AIX. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > >