Re: database market share 2003

Noons wrote: >> >> Just let it go.... >> > > No. Noon, Serge has already backed off. When Daniel and even Mark finally show some maturity and drop this petty school-boy dick-flogging subject, you'll be the last one left still, err, holding on and you'll be exposed for the wanker that you clearly are.

Andrew, Keep smokin! This is the kind of posting that I knew you were capable of delivering. Good job! Creative, succinct, poignant, humorous, accurate, it's all in there. 8-) Noon is not only a complete idiot, he's an a$$hole with no point. I still don't get whatever he was talking about and somehow he never understood the fact that DB2 runs the same single code base on all platforms. Utterly amazing. "Andrew Hamm" <ahamm@mail.com> wrote in message news:2jc4skFvudr4U1@uni-berlin.de... > Noons wrote: > >> > >> Just let it go.... > >> > > > > No. > > Noon, Serge has already backed off. When Daniel and even Mark finally show > some maturity and drop this petty school-boy dick-flogging subject, you'll > be the last one left still, err, holding on and you'll be exposed for the > wanker that you clearly are. > >

"Andrew Hamm" <ahamm@mail.com> wrote in message news:<2jc4skFvudr4U1@uni-berlin.de>... > Noon, Serge has already backed off. No, they have continued. Clearly, you have NO CLUE how to check a thread. > When Daniel and even Mark finally show > some maturity and drop this petty school-boy dick-flogging subject, so that two-dicks like you can continue to flog on crap under the disguise of "knowledge"? Dream on... > you'll > be the last one left still, err, holding on and you'll be exposed for the > wanker that you clearly are. Says the incompetent wanker who doesn't have a clue what he's talking about... To the point where his only strategy is ad-homine attacks. Piss off, troll.

"Data Goob" <datagoob@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<OR5Ac.52644$es4.38125@fe42.usenetserver.com>... > > Noon is not only a complete idiot, he's an a$$hole with > no point. I still don't get whatever he was talking > about and somehow he never understood the fact that DB2 > runs the same single code base on all platforms. Utterly > amazing. > If you have not seen the point, you're blind as a bat. as for your statements, try using a handle that sounds like a person instead of a rat.

I was going to try to come up with some poetry of my own, but I'm not as good at it as you are. The point is Nano-Nano that DB2 runs the same code base across all platforms, as well as SQL-Server, and I believe even Informix. I thought we covered this. What is very strange is why you felt compelled to take personal shots at just about everyone who has been in this conversation. It is also strange why Oracle doesn't run well on mainframes, and cannot scale their clustering beyond 8 servers, which by the way is documented in Oracles' own literature. Even Larry Ellison uses SQL-Server on all the Oracle web sites, so I don't understand the vitriole coming from you. "Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au> wrote in message news:73e20c6c.0406162346.47627b99@posting.google.com... > "Data Goob" <datagoob@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<OR5Ac.52644$es4.38125@fe42.usenetserver.com>... > > > > Noon is not only a complete idiot, he's an a$$hole with > > no point. I still don't get whatever he was talking > > about and somehow he never understood the fact that DB2 > > runs the same single code base on all platforms. Utterly > > amazing. > > > > If you have not seen the point, you're blind as a bat. > as for your statements, try using a handle that sounds > like a person instead of a rat.

Data Goob apparently said,on my timestamp of 17/06/2004 9:14 PM: > I was going to try to come up with some poetry of my own, > but I'm not as good at it as you are. Please, spare us all.... > The point is Nano-Nano that DB2 runs the same code base The point is two-dicks: you don't have a clue. > across all platforms, as well as SQL-Server, and I believe > even Informix. Absolutely. Care to talk about computers instead of shoes? > I thought we covered this. You covered nothing. Stop deluding yourself. > strange is why you felt compelled to take personal shots at > just about everyone who has been in this conversation. It It's not strange. It's the obvious consequence when an idiot tries to use personal attacks on me. > is also strange why Oracle doesn't run well on mainframes, Who cares about mainframes? > and cannot scale their clustering beyond 8 servers, which Bull. > by the way is documented in Oracles' own literature. Bull. > Even > Larry Ellison uses SQL-Server on all the Oracle web sites, What a pile of crap. Get over the personal attacks, it might work in the Microslop groups you frequent but doesn't stick with professionals. > so I don't understand the vitriole coming from you. Rest. -- Cheers Nuno Souto wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam

Data Goob wrote: > Andrew, > > Keep smokin! > > This is the kind of posting that I knew you were capable > of delivering. Good job! Creative, succinct, poignant, > humorous, accurate, it's all in there. [put's on elvis impersonation] wahhh thankya vurry mush.... I don't want to leave you in an entertainment vacuum, filled only by rants and personal attacks from social misfits hiding behind the anonymity of the internet.

Noons wrote: > "Andrew Hamm" <ahamm@mail.com> wrote... Oh, I feel priviledged - I thought you were ignoring me. I think we've had a run-in in the past, and I thought you performed the dramatic and horrifyingly isolating act of plonking me a year ago. Perhaps you are a saint of a person who routinely forgives people and removed them from your kill file. We are blessed by your internet presence. >> Noon, Serge has already backed off. > > No, they have continued. Clearly, you have NO CLUE > how to check a thread. Gosh, the last posting I see from Serge in c.d.i is the 12th, and I made my posting on the 17th. To me that sounds like he's backed off and stopped posting. I am so tempted to keep winding you up for a few more days, but that would only prolong this thread. I think many new people have seen you as the tanty-throwing fool that you are, and I guess the members of c.d.o.s have known this for a long time.

Here dickhead, read and weep: ------------------------------------------------------------ DB2 Information Management Software in the News ------------------------------------------------------------ IBM Keeps the Crown -- DBMS Market Share Results for 2003 For 2003, IBM is once again the new license revenue market share leader for the DBMS software market, says Gartner Dataquest in their May 2004 analyses. Overall new license DBMS sales for the industry increased 5.5%, from $8.3 billion (U.S.) to $8.8 billion, while overall RDBMS sales increased 5.1%, from $6.7 billion to $7.1 billion, compared to a 7.2% DBMS market decline in 2002. Dataquest attributes this growth to the elimination of excess capacity purchased in 2000 and 2001, investment in data warehouse and strategic business intelligence initiatives, and currency conversion benefits. Dataquest sees a "return to normalcy for the mature DBMS market" with market growth expected in the "mid-single digits through 2008." Learn more at the website. http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL604B43 This is not nearly as important as understanding that DB2 runs the same code base across all platforms and that Larry Ellison uses SQL-Server on all the Oracle web sites. SQL-Server by the way runs the same code base on alll platforms too. Oracle is dead, it's over for the big red one, less than half what DB2 did in the market. Oracle is old school, over and done. "Noons" <wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam> wrote in message news:40d180bb$0$12961$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > Data Goob apparently said,on my timestamp of 17/06/2004 9:14 PM: > > > I was going to try to come up with some poetry of my own, > > but I'm not as good at it as you are. > > Please, spare us all.... > > > > The point is Nano-Nano that DB2 runs the same code base > > The point is two-dicks: you don't have a clue. > > > > across all platforms, as well as SQL-Server, and I believe > > even Informix. > > Absolutely. Care to talk about computers instead of shoes? > > > > I thought we covered this. > > You covered nothing. Stop deluding yourself. > > > strange is why you felt compelled to take personal shots at > > just about everyone who has been in this conversation. It > > It's not strange. It's the obvious consequence > when an idiot tries to use personal attacks on me. > > > is also strange why Oracle doesn't run well on mainframes, > > Who cares about mainframes? > > > and cannot scale their clustering beyond 8 servers, which > > Bull. > > > by the way is documented in Oracles' own literature. > > Bull. > > > > Even > > Larry Ellison uses SQL-Server on all the Oracle web sites, > > What a pile of crap. Get over the personal attacks, it might > work in the Microslop groups you frequent but doesn't stick > with professionals. > > > so I don't understand the vitriole coming from you. > > Rest. > > > -- > Cheers > Nuno Souto > wizofoz2k@yahoo.com.au.nospam

Data Goob wrote: > Here dickhead, read and weep: Strangely enough, the IBM website didn't link this report that come out in the same month. Guess they haven't got round to it yet. http://www.idc.com/getdoc.jsp?containerId=pr2004_06_03_112013 Here's some excerpts from the press release According to IDC, the market continues to be dominated by Oracle, IBM, and Microsoft. As the leading vendors for 2003, these three companies control about three-quarters of the total market revenue. In 2003, Oracle achieved 39.8% market share, IBM achieved 31.3% and Microsoft 12.1%. "Oracle has preserved its first-place position in the market," said Carl Olofson, research director for IDC's Information Management and Data Integration Software service. "IBM has slipped slightly, with its growth coming mainly from customers' recommitment to mainframe DB2, and continued strong growth of mainframe DB2 tools for DBAs. Microsoft's growth is tapering in a manner consistent with the growth curve of a strong but maturing vendor." > This is not nearly as important as understanding that DB2 runs > the same code base across all platforms I don't think so - see http://tinyurl.com/2a3ss > and that Larry Ellison > uses SQL-Server on all the Oracle web sites. I don't think so - see http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.oracle.com http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=otn.oracle.com > SQL-Server by > the way runs the same code base on alll platforms too. I don't think so - see http://www.microsoft.com/sql/evaluation/sysreqs/2000/default.asp > Oracle > is dead, it's over for the big red one, less than half what DB2 > did in the market. I don't think so - even the Gartner report (which only tracks new licence revenues, and then makes guesses on unreported revenue for all DB2 supported platforms, including the AS/400, shows Oracle doing a reported 2,299.3 million vs an IBM 2,518.8. 0.01% difference is a little less than half. > Oracle is old school, over and done. Right. Oracle's 360% growth on Linux (which is growing at 158% itself) is definately old school, definately over and done. MS growth on Linux ? - 0%. IBM's growth on Linux ? - a massive 29.1 points of marketshare decline. So what does goob actually mean ?

Mark Townsend wrote: > Mark, we'll start picking on you next.... Don't make me come up there! Goob, no more entertainment if you don't drop it too...

Data Goob wrote: > Here dickhead, read and weep: Was this really necessary? > http://www.ibm.com/isource/cgi-bin/goto?on=IMNL604B43 I'm about as ready to believe these numbers as the ones published by any other software house ... self-serving. > This is not nearly as important as understanding that DB2 runs > the same code base across all platforms Please go back on your medication. Not even IBM itself would agree with this statement. -- Daniel Morgan http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/oad/oad_crs.asp http://www.outreach.washington.edu/ext/certificates/aoa/aoa_crs.asp damorgan@x.washington.edu (replace 'x' with a 'u' to reply)

Andrew Hamm wrote: > Mark Townsend wrote: > > > Mark, we'll start picking on you next.... Don't make me come up there! Hmm - Have you seen "Once Were Warriors" ? http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0110729/Ss/0110729/warriors1.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0110729 These are my friends. My very good friends. By all means, come visit ;-) > > Goob, no more entertainment if you don't drop it too... > > Truce. As far as I'm concerned, the ceasefire can begin.

Mark Townsend wrote: > > Hmm - Have you seen "Once Were Warriors" ? > > http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0110729/Ss/0110729/warriors1.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0110729 > > These are my friends. My very good friends. By all means, come visit > ;-) heh heh - no, actually, but I've seen Bad Taste, and if you said you were friends of Derek I'd be very afraid.

> but I've seen Bad Taste, An all time favourite - check it out at http://img-tbhl.theonering.net/movies/badt17.mpg WARNING: Anything associated with Bad Taste the movie is likely to be in extreme, well, er, bad taste. You may not want to explore this site with the kids looking over your shoulder. > and if you said you were > friends of Derek I'd be very afraid. > I'm a better shot - http://homepage.mac.com/markbtownsend/PhotoAlbum1.html. His chainsaw skills have me beat, however.

My only complaint is that we don't have a report showing Microsoft as the market leader. Surely somebody can find one--just kidding! 8-) Truce! ( Mark I do appreciate the links thanks. ) "Mark Townsend" <markbtownsend@comcast.net> wrote in message news:40D2875F.8010401@comcast.net... > Andrew Hamm wrote: > > Mark Townsend wrote: > > > > > > Mark, we'll start picking on you next.... Don't make me come up there! > > Hmm - Have you seen "Once Were Warriors" ? > > http://www.imdb.com/gallery/ss/0110729/Ss/0110729/warriors1.jpg?path=gallery&path_key=0110729 > > These are my friends. My very good friends. By all means, come visit ;-) > > > > > Goob, no more entertainment if you don't drop it too... > > > > > > Truce. As far as I'm concerned, the ceasefire can begin. >

Mark Townsend <markbtownsend@comcast.net> wrote in message news:<40D27407.1000902@comcast.net>... <snip> "IBM has slipped slightly, with its growth > coming mainly from customers' recommitment to mainframe DB2, and > continued strong growth of mainframe DB2 tools for DBAs <snip> i hereby gloat for all of those who have asked the question, on this thread-that-will-not-die: is IBM fudging its numbers with MF stuff. going ab-fab nowhere on linux. adieu robert