Re: RAC in Informix by year end?
A poster quoted a DBTA magazine article claiming IBM would deliver update (write) capability for IDS MACH 11 SDS secondary servers by the end of the year, making it an alternative to Oracle RAC, and asked whether Informix was really getting RAC-like functionality. Madison Pruet (IBM engineering) said it was news to him and asked for the source; Mark Townsend (Oracle) argued RSS/SDS are nothing like RAC and called the positioning marketing spin. Pruet effectively denied the timeline with a joke that the only things happening before year end were OnDemand and the holidays, and the thread then drifted into banter about holidays. No confirmation or resolution of the claim is recorded.
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Data Cruncher wrote: > Taken from DBTA magazine. > > Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix > will offer RAC. > > ============================================= > HDR, RSS and SDS servers and even ER can be combined in any way to > provide a sophisticated and flexible high availability solution. If > the primary server fails and, for example, a HDR secondary is promoted > to be the new primary, the whole IDS MACH 11 cluster reconfigures > itself. RSS and SDS servers automatically connect to the new primary. > Informix also supports the encryption of all network communication > inside a MACH 11 database cluster. IBM is currently working on the > implemenation of the update functionality that allows SDS servers > write access to the data. This functionality can be expected to be > available by the end of the year. MACH 11 is an excellent alternative > to the well known complexity of Oracle RAC/DataGuard. > News to me. Can you point me to where this paragraph is? Thanks M.P.
Madison Pruet wrote: > Data Cruncher wrote: >> Taken from DBTA magazine. >> >> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix >> will offer RAC. >> >> ============================================= >> HDR, RSS and SDS servers and even ER can be combined in any way to >> provide a sophisticated and flexible high availability solution. If >> the primary server fails and, for example, a HDR secondary is promoted >> to be the new primary, the whole IDS MACH 11 cluster reconfigures >> itself. RSS and SDS servers automatically connect to the new primary. >> Informix also supports the encryption of all network communication >> inside a MACH 11 database cluster. IBM is currently working on the >> implemenation of the update functionality that allows SDS servers >> write access to the data. This functionality can be expected to be >> available by the end of the year. MACH 11 is an excellent alternative >> to the well known complexity of Oracle RAC/DataGuard. >> > > News to me. > > Can you point me to where this paragraph is? > > Thanks > M.P. Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have definitely seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. Here's an example that comes straight out of the IBM sales play book - http://www.informixcity.com/downloads/IDS%20GA%20vs%20RAC%20Tri%20Fold%20DSnow%2006062007..pdf Of course RDS and SDS are nothing like RAC at all. This sort of stuff from IBM is very bush league and easily shown to not be credible.
Mark Townsend wrote: > Madison Pruet wrote: >> Data Cruncher wrote: >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. >>> >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix >>> will offer RAC. >>> >> >> News to me. >> >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? >> >> Thanks >> M.P. > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have definitely > seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. Mark, The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year end are: 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas 2) Halloween 3) Thanksgiving 4) Christmas Anything else is news to me. M.P.
Columbus Day!!! Dale R. Gilbert NCG Informix Database Engineering Bank of America dale.gilbert@bankofamerica.com Phone: (302) 457-4186 Cell: (858) 449-7459 -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Madison Pruet Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:25 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? Mark Townsend wrote: > Madison Pruet wrote: >> Data Cruncher wrote: >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. >>> >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix >>> will offer RAC. >>> >> >> News to me. >> >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? >> >> Thanks >> M.P. > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have definitely > seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. Mark, The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year end are: 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas 2) Halloween 3) Thanksgiving 4) Christmas Anything else is news to me. M.P. _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Gilbert, Dale wrote: > Columbus Day!!! Shoot... I forgot to include my Birthday as well... ;-) M.P. > > Dale R. Gilbert > NCG Informix Database Engineering > Bank of America > dale.gilbert@bankofamerica.com > Phone: (302) 457-4186 > Cell: (858) 449-7459 > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Madison Pruet > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:25 AM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? > > Mark Townsend wrote: >> Madison Pruet wrote: >>> Data Cruncher wrote: >>>> Taken from DBTA magazine. >>>> >>>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix >>>> will offer RAC. >>>> >>> News to me. >>> >>> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? >>> >>> Thanks >>> M.P. >> Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have > definitely >> seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. > > Mark, > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year > end are: > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > 2) Halloween > 3) Thanksgiving > 4) Christmas > > Anything else is news to me. > > M.P. > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
Happy Birthday!!! Don't feel bad, I forget my birthday too! Dale R. Gilbert NCG Informix Database Engineering Bank of America dale.gilbert@bankofamerica.com Phone: (302) 457-4186 Cell: (858) 449-7459 -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Madison Pruet Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 9:42 AM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? Gilbert, Dale wrote: > Columbus Day!!! Shoot... I forgot to include my Birthday as well... ;-) M.P. > > Dale R. Gilbert > NCG Informix Database Engineering > Bank of America > dale.gilbert@bankofamerica.com > Phone: (302) 457-4186 > Cell: (858) 449-7459 > > -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Madison Pruet > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 7:25 AM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? > > Mark Townsend wrote: >> Madison Pruet wrote: >>> Data Cruncher wrote: >>>> Taken from DBTA magazine. >>>> >>>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix >>>> will offer RAC. >>>> >>> News to me. >>> >>> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? >>> >>> Thanks >>> M.P. >> Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have > definitely >> seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. > > Mark, > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year > end are: > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > 2) Halloween > 3) Thanksgiving > 4) Christmas > > Anything else is news to me. > > M.P. > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
On Sep 19, 7:25 am, Madison Pruet <mpru...@verizon.net> wrote: > Mark Townsend wrote: > > Madison Pruet wrote: > >> Data Cruncher wrote: > >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. > > >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix > >>> will offer RAC. > > >> News to me. > > >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? > > >> Thanks > >> M.P. > > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have definitely > > seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. > > Mark, > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year > end are: > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > 2) Halloween > 3) Thanksgiving > 4) Christmas > > Anything else is news to me. > > M.P. Not to mention Yom Kippur, Sukkoth, Shimin Atsereth, and Simchat Torah for those of us who are of the appropriate persuasion. Art S. Kagel
> -----Original Message----- > From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org > [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Art S. Kagel > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:50 PM > To: informix-list@iiug.org > Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? > > On Sep 19, 7:25 am, Madison Pruet <mpru...@verizon.net> wrote: > > Mark Townsend wrote: > > > Madison Pruet wrote: > > >> Data Cruncher wrote: > > >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. > > > > >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year > end Informix > > >>> will offer RAC. > > > > >> News to me. > > > > >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? > > > > >> Thanks > > >> M.P. > > > > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have > > > definitely seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like > alternative. > > > > Mark, > > > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur > prior to year > > end are: > > > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > > 2) Halloween > > 3) Thanksgiving > > 4) Christmas > > > > Anything else is news to me. > > > > M.P. > > Not to mention Yom Kippur, Sukkoth, Shimin Atsereth, and > Simchat Torah for those of us who are of the appropriate persuasion. "appropriate"; what are you suggesting, Art? Mike > > Art S. Kagel > > _______________________________________________ > Informix-list mailing list > Informix-list@iiug.org > http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list > >
Ramadan is already ongoing. j. -----Original Message----- From: informix-list-bounces@iiug.org [mailto:informix-list-bounces@iiug.org]On Behalf Of Art S. Kagel Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 2:50 PM To: informix-list@iiug.org Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? On Sep 19, 7:25 am, Madison Pruet <mpru...@verizon.net> wrote: > Mark Townsend wrote: > > Madison Pruet wrote: > >> Data Cruncher wrote: > >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. > > >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year end Informix > >>> will offer RAC. > > >> News to me. > > >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? > > >> Thanks > >> M.P. > > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have definitely > > seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like alternative. > > Mark, > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur prior to year > end are: > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > 2) Halloween > 3) Thanksgiving > 4) Christmas > > Anything else is news to me. > > M.P. Not to mention Yom Kippur, Sukkoth, Shimin Atsereth, and Simchat Torah for those of us who are of the appropriate persuasion. Art S. Kagel _______________________________________________ Informix-list mailing list Informix-list@iiug.org http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list
On Sep 19, 5:07 pm, "Mike Badar" <mba...@esri.com> wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: informix-list-boun...@iiug.org > > [mailto:informix-list-boun...@iiug.org] On Behalf Of Art S. Kagel > > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:50 PM > > To: informix-l...@iiug.org > > Subject: Re: RAC in Informix by year end? > > > On Sep 19, 7:25 am, Madison Pruet <mpru...@verizon.net> wrote: > > > Mark Townsend wrote: > > > > Madison Pruet wrote: > > > >> Data Cruncher wrote: > > > >>> Taken from DBTA magazine. > > > > >>> Did I read this correctly? Does it mean that by year > > end Informix > > > >>> will offer RAC. > > > > >> News to me. > > > > >> Can you point me to where this paragraph is? > > > > >> Thanks > > > >> M.P. > > > > > Madison - interesting comment that it's news to you - We have > > > > definitely seen IBM position RSS and SDS as a RAC-like > > alternative. > > > > Mark, > > > > The only things that I know of which are going to occur > > prior to year > > > end are: > > > > 1) IBM's OnDemand Conference in Las Vegas > > > 2) Halloween > > > 3) Thanksgiving > > > 4) Christmas > > > > Anything else is news to me. > > > > M.P. > > > Not to mention Yom Kippur, Sukkoth, Shimin Atsereth, and > > Simchat Torah for those of us who are of the appropriate persuasion. > > "appropriate"; what are you suggesting, Art? See, I KNEW that was going to get me into trouble somehow. ;-) Just meant those of us for whom it is appropriate to recognize those days as well. Art S. Kagel > Mike > > > > > Art S. Kagel > > > _______________________________________________ > > Informix-list mailing list > > Informix-l...@iiug.org > >http://www.iiug.org/mailman/listinfo/informix-list