IDS 10 for Sun procs
Question: a customer will run IDS 10.0FC7 on Solaris 10 across two SPARC types — SunFire v890 (UltraSPARC IV+) in production and T2000 (UltraSPARC T1/Niagara) for test — so does IBM ship the same binary for both? Answer: yes; the chips are binary compatible and IBM lists only one 64-bit Solaris 8/9/10 port for 10.00.FC7 (machine notes and the SunSPARC requirements PDF were cited). The PVU pricing difference doesn't imply separate code streams. Side comment: Niagara favours multithreaded apps, which suits IDS.
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Hi I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s (Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s (UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris 10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does anyone know? thx -- Neil Truby t:01932 724027 Director m:07798 811708 Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com
On 5 Nov, 15:38, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > Hi > > I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s > (Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s > (UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris > 10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does anyone > know? > > thx > -- > Neil Truby t:01932 724027 > Director m:07798 811708 > Ardenta Limited e:neil.tr...@ardenta.com Hi Neil, As far as I am aware the two (Sparc IV and T1 (ie Niagra)) processors are binary compatible so in theory the same code *should* work. IBM's GA spreadsheet also doesn't differentiate between SPARC CPUs. If you can tell us which release you are currently using I could check further in the machine notes. I hope this helps.
It's IDS 10.0FC7, if you can really be bothered to do that for me! I wondered if it might be different because IBM *does* distinguish between the processors in its PVU pricing calculations. "Upsidedown Head" <simon.bowering@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1194282002.243128.236490@k35g2000prh.googlegroups.com... > On 5 Nov, 15:38, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: >> Hi >> >> I have a customer who is planning a new IDS installation on SunFire v890s >> (Unltra Sparc IV+ chips), who will run their test system on Sun T2000s >> (UltraSparc T1 processors). In both cases this will be IDS 10 on Solaris >> 10. Is the IDS code-stream common to the two processor types, does >> anyone >> know? >> >> thx >> -- >> Neil Truby t:01932 724027 >> Director m:07798 811708 >> Ardenta Limited e:neil.tr...@ardenta.com > > Hi Neil, > > As far as I am aware the two (Sparc IV and T1 (ie Niagra)) processors > are binary compatible so in theory the same code *should* work. > IBM's GA spreadsheet also doesn't differentiate between SPARC CPUs. If > you can tell us which release you are currently > using I could check further in the machine notes. > > I hope this helps. > > >
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On 5 Nov, 17:25, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: > To whom it may concern: > > Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. > Subject: IDS 10 for Sun procs > Sent: 05/11/2007 15:39 > The following recipient(s) could not be reached: > informix-l...@iiug.org on 05/11/2007 16:30 > There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server. > Please contact your system administrator. > <smtp.hrnz.co.nz #5.5.0 smtp;554 <smtp.hrnz.co.nz[203.97.9.108]>: Client > host rejected: Access denied> Hi Neil, Looks like IBM only have one common port for Solaris 8,9,10 64bit on 10.00.FC7 : http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/c2377290.html#sun64 and ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/data/informix/ids/IDS-SunSPARC-reqs.pdf I hope this helps.
Thank you for that! -- Neil Truby t:01932 724027 Director m:07798 811708 Ardenta Limited e:neil.truby@ardenta.com "Upsidedown Head" <simon.bowering@hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:1194339194.258233.210530@d55g2000hsg.googlegroups.com... > On 5 Nov, 17:25, "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> wrote: >> To whom it may concern: >> >> Your message did not reach some or all of the intended recipients. >> Subject: IDS 10 for Sun procs >> Sent: 05/11/2007 15:39 >> The following recipient(s) could not be reached: >> informix-l...@iiug.org on 05/11/2007 16:30 >> There was a SMTP communication problem with the recipient's email server. >> Please contact your system administrator. >> <smtp.hrnz.co.nz #5.5.0 smtp;554 <smtp.hrnz.co.nz[203.97.9.108]>: Client >> host rejected: Access denied> > > Hi Neil, > > Looks like IBM only have one common port for Solaris 8,9,10 64bit on > 10.00.FC7 : > > http://publibfp.boulder.ibm.com/epubs/html/c2377290.html#sun64 > > and > > ftp://ftp.software.ibm.com/software/data/informix/ids/IDS-SunSPARC-reqs.pdf > > I hope this helps. >
>From: "Neil Truby" <neil.truby@ardenta.com> The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem with IDS since it is multi-threaded. I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this new architecture. (Not that I could afford a Sun box...) _________________________________________________________________ More photos; more messages; more storage'get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail. http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_2G_0507
On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> > > The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have > multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a > performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem > with IDS since it is multi-threaded. > > I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this > new architecture. > (Not that I could afford a Sun box...) > > _________________________________________________________________ > More photos; more messages; more storage-get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail.http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_m... Its true Niagra's architecture is heavily gear towards multithreaded applications so as you state IDS should do fine :-)
On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> > > The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have > multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a > performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem > with IDS since it is multi-threaded. > > I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this > new architecture. > (Not that I could afford a Sun box...) > > _________________________________________________________________ > More photos; more messages; more storage-get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail.http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_m... Yes its true that to make the most of Niagra's architecture you do require multithreaded code - which in essence is true of most recent CPU pipeline designs with multiple cores. As you state IDS should run well with this :-)
On 6 Nov, 15:17, Upsidedown Head <simon.bower...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote: > On 6 Nov, 14:00, "Ian Michael Gumby" <im_gu...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > >From: "Neil Truby" <neil.tr...@ardenta.com> > > > The interesting thing is that Sun is warning customers that unless they have > > multi-threaded applications that they shouldn't expect as much of a > > performance boost with their new chip set. Not that this should be a problem > > with IDS since it is multi-threaded. > > > I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a huge boost over the competition on this > > new architecture. > > (Not that I could afford a Sun box...) > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > More photos; more messages; more storage-get 5GB with Windows Live Hotmail.http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_m... > > Yes its true that to make the most of Niagra's architecture you do > require multithreaded code - which in essence is true of most recent > CPU pipeline designs with multiple cores. As you state IDS should run > well with this :-) oops didn't think the first post worked ;-)