Re: IDS 11 - Press Releases

A lot of outsourcing has backfired. There are a lot of companies that have found the lower productivity, corrupt governments, lack of technology infrastructure, and communication problems between cultures more expensive than paying locals to do the work. While it appears to work better for unskilled labor, it does not translate equally for "skilled" labor, such as information technology, or the legal community for that matter. There are law firms in the US now outsourcing a lot of legal work to India, but after going through the gymnastics many are finding it more trouble than it's worth. IBM Global Services wants to move all their contracts to India, or any other "developing" nation that has cheaper labor than the US. They are actively replacing US Citizens with folks in Brazil, Viet Nam, Pakistan, and China. The conference calls I've been on for my team should have been recorded for the comedy channel, listening to the IBM a$$hole manager trying to ask questions to people in Brazil and India, and the phone problems, lack of English speakers, etc etc, I never laughed so hard in my life. It was priceless. -t- Data Cruncher wrote: > "DA Morgan" <damorgan@psoug.org> wrote in message > news:1182216334.96655@bubbleator.drizzle.com... > >> If we are talking only programmers I'd be inclined to say that they >> are equally or more productive in some respects. > > Even 1% is mathematically more :-) > > Fact is that when a CIO looks at the tab he has to > pick - $90K for a US based Java/Oracle programmer > and $30K for India based person, it is no brainer > which one he will pick and that is what is happening. > Guys who run the business are not fools and that > includes your god Larry Ellison also. Just ask any > Oracle employee how much and what work Oracle > India does. > > Do I see fear in your post. You should. India has > Oracle experts dime a dozen and so far you have > given no indication that you are better than them, > not even that 1% :-) > >