Re: IBM releases #1 TPC-E benchmark!
This is a discussion/opinion thread rather than a technical problem report. Responding to a claim that benchmark results require product rewrites and heavily tuned hardware, the poster argues DB2's top TPC-E figure was achieved on a distributed (AIX) platform that IDS already runs on, so no rewrite would be needed; tuning is mainly about matching hardware configuration to the database. He wonders why IBM doesn't publish IDS benchmark numbers (even on Cell blades) for marketing value. No technical question is posed and no resolution is recorded.
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On Jul 14, 9:40 am, PeterP <peterp...@gmail.com> wrote: > The other thing is, if IBM decided to do an IDS benchmark, an exec > type at IBM is going to look at TPC and say, right top score is 6 > million, 10 million sounds good to me this morning. IDS will have to > go through somewhat of a re-write (rather than useful code > development) and the drivers on the hardware it's running having > similar tweaks until the magic burn up chart hits the figure. I'd be > frowning on this development approach, wondering is this good for a > product? Or are benchmarks actually done some other way - i.e. > actually testing a bog standard product on a standard non optimised > hardware setup. :) I don't know what you've been smoking but DB2's top number of 6 million or so tps was done on a distributed platform (AIX) something which IDS runs on. If you wanted to see some silly large numbers, Sun and IBM have LUW aka Distributed platforms that can already run IDS. No need for any "rewrites" for IDS. The reason Fernando thinks that its all hardware is because you tweak the hardware configuration to get the best performance from the database. I forget the name of the "new" sun chips, not sure that they've hit the streets yet. Rock something... High number of threads per core. (Of course a sparc core is different from an intel core which is different from an AMD or Power core...) You have to wonder why public numbers aren't being released. I mean heck. You now have cell based blades and we know IDS has been ported to Cell. Why doesn't Jerry K place a call to IBM hardware and say "lets light this puppy?" Ok so maybe Jerry wouldn't say that exact phrase, but you get the idea. The one thing about benchmarks. You can get a lot of PR mileage without taking out a full page ad focusing on a product. I mean that would violate IBM's brand centric advertising. Or you could do a series of benchmarks on DB2 and IDS and then publish the ad. Then you're showing the true power of the brand. And if you just do it on IBM hardware, well I'm sure they'd pony up some of the cash too. But hey! Call me a dreamer. ;-)